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Yet another plane-load of shite
https://www.politico.com/news/20…
Canada's public health authority says around one million KN95 respirators acquired from China have failed to meet federal Covid-19 standards for use by frontline health professionals.
- I almost wonder if this might be intentional. By design in terms of supply chain and product manufacturing, China could absolutely exploitmg33
- the needs of adversaries in this crisis, by shipping junk to them.mg33
- But where would that get them? If China's doing shit like this on purpose for long-term game gains, it's got the rules awfully muddled up.Nairn
- https://mobile.twitt…Gnash
- Govt’s are afraid to make a stink about itGnash
- Each country needs to setup it's own PPE factories. We can't rely on CCP China, and we shouldn't, it's embarrassing.shapesalad
- That’s starting to happen. Hopefully countries will re-examine their entire supply chain, not just for ppe’sGnash
- maybe I'm wrong, but the gov did authorize buying KN95, that does not fully meet regulatory requirements. now it's anti china news?uan
- 100% shape salad. That's what I'm so enthusiastic about the transformative potential coming out of this. It can bring jobs back to the US in a big way.mg33
- And I just read the article and clicked on a link to get that information.uan
- We can bring multi-faceted manufacturing back, with the ability to quickly re-tool to make necessary goods, fill supplies, and do it when needed.mg33
- Like, if we can't figure out a better way as the "strongest nation in the world," we're pretty much doomed and this virus might as well wipe us all out.mg33
- "strongest nation in the world"... I fear you are getting prepared for going into war.uan
- @uan. They are defective. Kn95s can be used in hospitals if they’re made rightGnash
- but they say 'not suitable for medical care workers' they don't say defective. and they link to a list of products authorized under interim order.uan
- it's more likely they authorized them in case of emergency but they don't need them now (because of low cases), so news make them sound 'defective'uan
- KN95 is not the same as N95, might also be an important information to consider.uan
- No. The FDH says “... KN95 masks are an acceptable alternative to N95 models, but the masks in question did not meet the required filtering standards...”Gnash
- Canada didn’t buy them knowing they couldn’t be used. They are faultyGnash
- There’s no grey area here. The product was shiteGnash
- look, I totally can be wrong here. I'm just hanging out on qbn after don't know how much weeks of social distancing :-)uan
- I here ya. Giving Benefit of the doubt is a good trait to haveGnash
- This makes sense, China is in the business of destabilizing and weakening its enemies, and this could be a big fuck you for abducting Huawei’s princess_niko
- I would seriously doubt that they’re making crap on purpose.Gnash
- I think it’s just the nature of their system. It’s inevitableGnash
- We should all stop making our shits in China. Its like sending boats of money to a potential enemy since decades. They're laughing at us.Bennn
- China and the occident do not comply to the same standards, nothing more here ffs.i_was
- The Kn95 standard, while different, still complies with the intend use of the N95s. These kn95s were defective and did not even comply with it’s own standardGnash
- well, how defective is the question, defective can mean bad manufacturingi_was
- Defective enough to be unsafe.Gnash
- There is nothing in the text of the article that says the masks were defective.yuekit
- They could be defective, but it could also be some mismatch between how the masks were made by this company, vs. Canadian regulatory standards.yuekit
- Article also says Canada is going to try to use the masks anyway, although they don't meet the standards for medical personnel.yuekit
- In any case, the fact that people interpreted this article as "Chinese government is deliberately shipping us fake masks to kill us" shows you how far thisyuekit
- whole thing has gone.yuekit
- Fuck you China!utopian
- There are other articles that state that the masks were ‘defective‘. They’re defective, ffs. But I, too, don’t think they doing it on purpose.Gnash
- There are no end to articles that very clearly state that many shipments worldwide have been found to be ‘defective’Gnash
- Not that millions of the wrong masks were ordered. FfsGnash
- I find it amusing that ppl blame china and it‘s standards while it‘s clear it‘s the only nation that produces that stuff. and that‘s how it‘s been for years.uan
- imagine the volumes of ppe that they have to produce atm to satisfy the worldwide demand. and this after an epidemic with lockdown?uan
- if china closes export for what ever reason, good luck finding or producing own masks.uan
- Ya, it’s amusing that China is send shit to the worldGnash
- And, fortunately, countries have realized how fucked this is and have started making their own nowGnash
- yep, they started to buy chinese machines and material from china.uan