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    • Ask deathboy, he is our very own special kind of Rhodes Scholar.utopian
    • Sure I'll take it. First the question is a false premise. Whole go is to push false narratives. Why do I know?deathboy
    • Capitalism defined by free trading value for value has never nor would it need a bail out by it's naturedeathboy
    • If something is unnecessary for public spending than it largely is. Not capitalism that says bail something out. That is socialismdeathboy
    • Something that can only be enacted by a gov official. Gov can't control free markets at all. They can only impose controlsdeathboy
    • So yea love logically u can see the post is emo trigger bait for your own leanings for social famedeathboy
    • Hope u learned something utopian. Don't want me to start charging for your lessonsdeathboy
    • Take a break son, you sound like you need it.monoboy
    • (or maybe spend less time on here replying to everyone you disagree with and put that shoulder to the wheel of capitalism).monoboy
    • Btw. Does anybody know if you can delete your account on here?monoboy
    • @monoboy: well, most cunts — when they want their account deleted — make a big scene about it in the threads, and eventually it happens.Continuity
    • Why, you want to be deleted?Continuity
    • I'm spending too much time on it and my urge to argue is like a thirst. ;)monoboy
    • You're under lockdown. Where else would you spend your time? :PContinuity
    • "Gov can't control free markets... gov can only impose controls" – this guy is a word salad markov bot.i_monk
    • Capitalism isn't 'free trading value for value' and that's proven by the collapse of the stock market the second the labour force has to stay home.i_monk
    • You pay me x/hour to do my job, but the value of that job to you is worth more than x, perhaps an order of magnitude more, when you sell it.i_monk
    • Then you make money on how reliable I am at doing that job, how sure you are I'll show up and keep doing it, and on the promise you'll keep paying me xi_monk
    • indefinitely, regardless of cost of living changes or other external factors (new subsidies, a competitor folding giving you greater market share, etc)i_monk
    • Then you get me to pay for the public infrastructure you benefit the most from, justied by being an employer when in fact you make use of thati_monk
    • infrastructure disproportionately more than I do. You take these subsidies and tax exemptions and sit on the cash or improve your value by paying out to thei_monk
    • non-workers who invested in my labour and claim credit and ownership of it.i_monk
    • The sentiment in the posted tweet is how terrible outcomes get started.nb
    • Simplifying our current system as "capitalism" and then applying all our failures to it is insane.nb
    • Two people agreeing on a price and exchanging goods happens in socialism too; capitalism is the ownership of labour by having more money than the labourer.i_monk
    • But ultimately being entirely reliant on the labourer for that money and all value derived from the labour.i_monk
    • Nothing deathboy writes can’t be dismissed or debunked by layman in mere seconds dedicated to rational thought. It’s ridiculously hilarious.monospaced
    • < this ignorance is at the core of why society will fail and the same guys who fucked it up will rebuild it as a global order and you'll beg for it.bliznutty
    • please understand finance and what the federal reserve is, where it comes from, and where its going. we were sold to them by our politicians long time agobliznutty
    • Imonk since u seemed to have tried. You
      are incorrect. Value exchanged for value doesn't mean perceived value. Ie spot price vs physical on precious metals
      deathboy
    • At the end of the day if ppl are free to decide they choose their value. U might not like certain pay for a certain job thinking it's worth more. But u also dondeathboy
    • T quit it. No other place is offering pay for same skillsets. U may argue businesses need workers to create profits. But no businesses no wages. And many ppl indeathboy
    • Positions who recognize value they provide can take experience and set off competitively. But truth is majority see the value they provide but would be lost ondeathboy
    • Mono: Nothing deathboy says can't be debunked easily with reason... Mono: I say it's wrong that's reason!deathboy
    • Grow up mono. U seem like a kid carrying a chip on his shoulder after getting bullied most of his life. The over compensation is smellydeathboy
    • “it’s wrong that’s reason”
      Explain the meaning in this incoherent response. Until then you are a moronic clown with idiotic ideas.
      monospaced
    • I’m also a father. And you live with your mother. Looks like it’s you who should grow up.monospaced
    • "You're free to choose between homelessness and starvation, and working for a fraction of the actual value of your labour. See, it's fair!"i_monk
    • imonk is your new niche like the fake quote guy?deathboy
    • monospaced you refuse to give any explanation except insults on anything you disagree with and think those insults or fake crowd majority deems it true.deathboy
    • what is this like the 20th time ive said it to you. and still not getting it.the term willful ignorance comes to minddeathboy
    • our special commenter guyutopian
    • You said people get to decide their value, pretending the owners don't hold the purse strings. It's not a balanced or symmetrical exchange and you know it.i_monk
    • again i_monk. ppl choose value. there is no pretending or owners of anything. a value choice is dependent upon owners or anything. value is what you get from andeathboy
    • exchange. not sure i understand what you are saying but if its a greater profit for owners to provide a service than value of user. well... both benefitdeathboy
    • this idea all should benefit equally is just well dumb. equality in rights is smart equality in everything else not so good. why you see ppl claiming things asdeathboy
    • "rights". regardless of any logical foundation. those ppl u should be wary ofdeathboy
    • And imonk many owners need less smart laborers. As well as those laborers need jobs. Both benefit better togetherdeathboy
    • Your rebuttal is "I don't understand" and "the idea of equality is dumb" and seem to hold the labour class shouldn't be educated.i_monk
    • looks like retardboy here still can't write a coherent sentencemonospaced
    • Looks like I'm wasting my time. Gave u plenty of reason and u cherry pick inaccurate out of context crap to support your realitydeathboy
    • Just grow the fuck up.deathboy

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