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  • Nairn1

    I'm hoping we're not more than a decade out from some kind of vat-grown 'dairy molecule' substitution.

    Same too vats of complex meat and fat molecules, lipids, long-chain whatevers.

    Maybe a decade atter that, artifical eggs.

    Whoever cracks this biotech and enables ingredients that provide the umami taste and mouth-feel of meat fat/dairy/eggs will make bajillions.

    I often cook essentially vegetarian food, but add in concentrated chicken stock just to give it some extra oomph. I'd quite happily replace that ooomph with something artificial.

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    • if I was rich and, let's face it - a lot smarter and less prone to writing shit into the void on the internet - I'd spend my days trying to crack this.Nairn
    • Is substituting meat with overly processed synthetic foods really a healthier choice? Not critical, but it is a valid question for a bigger discussionmonospaced
    • Nairn, if what you're looking for is to add savouriness/umani, just use a bit of marmite instead of chicken stock. A little dab will do you, maybe ...Continuity
    • ... a teaspoon or so. The marmite taste disappears, and you're just left with something that tastes more savoury.Continuity
    • Also, *umamiContinuity
    • Other umami vegetarian/vegan options: nutritional yeast (comes as powder/flakes), and good old monosodium glutamate.Continuity
    • Heard of MSG? Science has pretty much pardoned it.jagara
    • @monospaced
      To join the discussion, there are many that go the vegetarian/vegan route for non health reasons like environmental & ethical.      deadsperm
    • I personally don't give a fuck about my health. I'll eat lithium over steak just to prove my point. Apparently, lithium is good for bipolar disorder.deadsperm
    • For the rest of you folks, looking for meatless substitutions is plain dumb. They will always just be substitutes.deadsperm
    • There is already a big culture of meatless cuisine to be explored.deadsperm
    • @deadsperm this is what you get developing food without animal testing, human lab rats consuming everything what triggers their chemosensory mechanism.sted
    • but the Agribusiness lobby will do all they can to block all this. Too much money at stake and jobs. Sadly.Bennn
    • food from bacteria is some of the oldest and healthiest humanity has, so i'm not sure that why future vat-grown food would necessarily be frankenfood evilNairn
    • @cont: It's not just umami as such - I used that as a clumsy shorthand. it's the whole egg/dairy/meat thing, but not. I'v been meaning to try those yeast flakesNairn
    • @mono - i suppose it tends upon what 'processed' means. 'Processed' could - probably should - include cheese, pasta, miso, wine, beer etc.Nairn
    • heck, given we've had x tens of thousands of years of grain and livestock modification, i'd even suggest that much of what we consume now 'naturally' is too.Nairn
    • Oh, forgot to mention - unpasteurised miso paste is The Fucking Bomb. A little bit goes in most things I cook these days.Nairn
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