Elon Musk

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    Its all speculative and highly algo trading on data and money pumping. ppl forget the "gigafactory" in reno has been halted at 30%. The shanghai "gigafactory is no where near the same scope. Almost a tent fremont center. And the original gigafactory is advertised as panasonic. And yet today bed bath an beyond showed a big decline and share losses and was up. the markets are all about self destructive behavior. Just wondering if the fed can hold off a moment of everyone profit grabbing. Cant pump this bubble with no losses. Either you allow rate increases and asset declines or get bernie sanders types who will spread every asset to those without out of political upheaval. Domestically speaking... But first we'd need a global status reduction for that scenario.

    • LOL!monospaced
    • BBBY was not up this week, and didn't hit any of their targets. Fed can't stop the free market either. Also, what bubble?monospaced
    • also, the entire POINT of a stock market is speculation ... the fact that you seem to think that's a criticism seems incredibly naive or ignorantmonospaced
    • It was up after the news. it dropped later. shows lags in algos. The fed works against any idea of a free market. And the bubble is a liquidity trapdeathboy
    • the point of a stock market is more cognizant investment. Individuals with capital investing in business with dividends based on ideal salesdeathboy
    • or at least any recognized returns based on real value. the markets don't resemble any thing of the sort anymore. why 40% of traded companies are zombies withdeathboy
    • negative earnings and many more so overvalued through passive investments or plain ignorance.deathboy
    • but regardless of the capt wow statements of fact. Tesla is very volatile and popular like and bitcoin knockoff. Doesn't mean its "valuable" just mean its adeathboy
    • its a troll doll fad. I'm just surprised how he has skated so far fucking everyone over. Our legislators elected dem leaning and they wont touch even the repdeathboy
    • public handouts. Not sure any politician wants to confront these fake companies because of the job losses involved.deathboy
    • which is a huge part of the trap with the fed. and which they promised they would do until dec 2019 and shit hit the fan and they got scareddeathboy
    • they are held hostage by the over leveraged companies. knowing if rate raise with their positions they will destroy economies and make so many bankrupt.deathboy
    • corps learned from home owners on walking away and central banking response. I have no idea how this will end but I dont expect welldeathboy
    • Mono if you wanted to raise rates to stabilize wealth ( rich vs poor lowering ability for rich to access capital where poor cannot) and hold the current lendeesdeathboy
    • to task. If a 1% interest rate increase and ignore bailing out repo markets and there over leveraged positions with runs on banks...deathboy
    • lets say it it cause a collapse of at least 15% of the 40% of zombies and another 5% of other companies. in jobs only. capital losses a big difference. woulddeathboy
    • you take that responsibility? i thought powell would, but something got to him dec 2019 end. he hasnt been the samedeathboy
    • or maybe i hoped he had the back, and turned out folded as every other central banker.deathboy
    • And more importantly mono what do you think about halting construction of original "gigafactory" at 30% while panasonic runs it?deathboy
    • oh and mono. the point of a stock market is rational investment. dividends and gains. the forces which created stock markets no longer existdeathboy
    • who wants to buy a share 30x over priced? Its irrational, its cultural and its passive. Sure passive capital increased growth and corps of monopolistic naturedeathboy
    • but is that well invested capital? Gov incentive investment is only corp incentive investment. There is money in it why its a tasty carrot, but its riggeddeathboy
    • The artificial growth in unsustainable and all the 30X values plus pensions and gov promises will either need to be made null and void or hyperinflationdeathboy
    • we'll see what the fed reduction of 5 bill in feb does on repos. Im buying a home and not yet locked into an interest rate so this shit involves me directlydeathboy
    • let all the printing be and promise of free shit after i lock in a low rate. This market manipulation is shit and have excess capital im tired of rentingdeathboy
    • and future goes to the indebted. Forgive my home loan for a vote! Responsible finance is a strangely "the dumb thing to do"deathboy
    • lol, are you okay? You went so far off in o many directions and so deep in ignorant assumptions I was thikning maybe you had a stroke or somethingmonospaced
    • Your dumbsplaining of the market is unnecessary. Just say that you're too proud or stupid to invest and let us mop up the riches, okay?monospaced
    • Cue another dozen notes from the house retard, deathboy. AND GO!monospaced
    • thats the thing mono. im neither proud nor stupid. just calling it what it is and saying i have no idea, except its current path is unsustainabledeathboy
    • i dont have a position, or if i do in cash its been getting slayed by central banking for decades. its jsut i dont buy the incentives to fund the casinodeathboy
    • and if history proves anything those with the least will take from those with. redistribution of your wealth amongst lessers liek me who are poor :(deathboy

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