Donald Trump

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  • mg333

    drgs,

    I think you'd be surprised. Look at the polls. Trump has lost and is continuing to lose an incredibly important demographic: white suburban women. In reality, his evangelical "base" is minimal. The fanatics who show up at rallies represents minimal amount of supporters and the Republican voting public.

    I need to look for some articles, but there have been numerous over the past year about his waning support from suburban white women (often single) - typically moderate voters more concerned with what they're earning, their prospects in life, etc. and entirely turned off by Trump's behavior, immorality, misogyny, etc.

    I hope it's true.

    • Let's say a prayer.nbq
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    • And some thoughts...elahon
    • my mother in law, a white suburban woman, is so salty today, it's hilariousmonospaced
    • weren't the polls sure trump couldn't get elected the first time? don't recall exactly, but trusting in polls is not the best idea mg33.uan
    • I'm not trusting in them by any means. I'm just hopeful they're not wrong.mg33
    • Most people don't care about his fuckups, the guy is a top level shagger and people seem to love that.PhanLo
    • #trump2020 #ye2024 it's coming :)renderedred
    • When reason abandons, when reality bites, we are left with nothing but 'hope.' Or astrology.; both equally effective.
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    • both as ineffective as prayer, and both as pointlessmonospaced
    • Considering all that led to this, looking at polls might not be the best predictor of anything.ben_
    • According to this article another factor is that the Trump voting base is literally dying off (due to old age, drug overdoses etc).yuekit
    • https://www.bloomber…yuekit
    • Having said that you could make a case either way. Trump is behind in the polls but it's close enough that he could win again.yuekit
    • ^ It's critical that we know whether votes were manipulated in his favor in the states that won him the electoral vote.mg33
    • Hypothetically, it's perfectly reasonable to presume the polling was accurate but the results different because of vote manipulation.mg33
    • But as a pragmatic person, I will withhold assumption or judgment until definitive facts about votes being tampered are presented.mg33
    • The reason he could win is that his party is united behind him and the democrats aren't united behind a single person. The splits alone are going to be the issumonospaced
    • Here is some evidence that doesn't rely on polling, in the midterm elections one year ago Democrats won by 54% to 45%.yuekit
    • mono - fair point, but that's expected in an election cycle for any party with 12+ candidates vying for one spot.mg33
    • The same way that people who even hated Trump voted for him to vote against Hillary could play out for Dems. I mean, why wouldn't it?mg33
    • There's not a chance that Dem voters who can't stand Trump sit out because their preferred candidate isn't on the ballot.mg33
    • It's not just a point. It's the very reason people feel he'll win again. He's got 50% of the nation guaranteed. Dems need the same or they're fucked.monospaced

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