Global Warming

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  • i_monk5

    Waiting for deathboy to make his case instead of expecting everyone else to prove a negative.

    • Too busy googling 'Greta Thunberg Malthusian Keynesian Taliban'kingsteven
    • 'Greta Thunberg lizard people Soros conspiracy'i_monk
    • The wait is long. Very Long.
      https://www.theepoch…
      BustySaintClaire
    • ^How many of those newspaper articles were based on peer-reviewed studies vs. poorly researched predictions by cranks out of their depths?i_monk
    • ^Also: https://www.dailykos…i_monk
    • haha i dont have any case or prediction. im not some dumbing fuckin kid or scientist selling "science" for a paydaydeathboy
    • and more curiously case on what note exactly? Timelines, datasets, manmade vs natural, historical, types of measurements, bias, statistics?deathboy
    • your negative i think is akin to disproving god. you think of this climate change like a demon that can only be excorized by a self chosen few.deathboy
    • you do realize before humans existed climate changed. and datasets based on 100,000 years of ice core, geology, history depicts global changes humans need todeathboy
    • adapt too. yet now you get fearful "scientific" prophets predict end of days in 12 years unless you REPENT or just make arbitrary changes no one can measure ordeathboy
    • evaluate. really come on who is the sucker here?... or cant reason with a religious person why their scripture is illogical. might be the same heredeathboy
    • "peer-reviewed" aka "filtered". Let all research be held with the same regard and evaluated on its own merit.robthelad
    • hahaha fuck me deathboy, you are the one coming on here with the unquestionable capitalist doctrine. there's been some admiration of greta for her activismkingsteven
    • and you and robo, busty posting the same old denier arguments we've all read a thousand times. forming conspiracies about a teenager then sexualising thekingsteven
    • conversation when you've been laughed out of the conversation for it. do not assume we're all as thick as you and incapable of making up our own minds.kingsteven
    • lol all he does is shit in science because he’s a dropoutmonospaced
    • deathboy: Go home, the adults are talking.i_monk
    • @robthelad, "peer-reviewed" is the highest level of professional scrutiny imaginable or in existence. It is carried out by experts. Your criticism is unfounded.monospaced
    • Climate forecasting is ~modelling~ not science, which is hypothesis-theory-me... It is selective input data for desired results.BustySaintClaire
    • king you talk a lot but say little. perhaps focus on the data and what is real. jeez busty gets it.deathboy
    • seriously lads, you are pulling this out of your arse right now. i'm not even defending greta let alone ALL climate science.kingsteven
    • i'm more or less just having fun calling you guys out for an incredibly bad take on something incompatible with your beliefskingsteven
    • i sort of get your criticism of mono, but at the same time i'd say scientific consensus is far more valid a belief than the basis of your critiquekingsteven
    • which is based on the incompatibility of climate activism with capitalism/ normative egoist beliefs.kingsteven
    • how convenient king. no need of proof. jsut fuckin around and trying to say our point is a belief while stating yoursdeathboy
    • "based on the incompatibility of climate activism with capitalism/ normative egoist beliefs" is fact. Quite soem assumptions to it..deathboy
    • cliamte activism is largely out of poor education and fear. that fear is easily misplaced politically for selfish gains and egotistical beliefsdeathboy
    • such as a kid thinking they can egotisically fix the world.deathboy
    • which makes me wonder where your principles lie. you seem to support what you dont like. i think u have no cluedeathboy
    • i seem to support something i don't like? where? another typical egoist belief is the inability to change things due to a sense of lack of control.kingsteven
    • so you're never going to understand the motivations of an altruistically minded young, socialist (i assume) climate change activist.kingsteven
    • she is the anti-you (well, except the autism)kingsteven
    • you seem to not like egotists but adept at following them without ability to acknowledge their merits.deathboy
    • a belief in knowing what you can and cannot control is a belief until reason comes into play. You seem to have some blind church style faith in your belief.deathboy
    • im thinking you are similar to a dogmatic church indoctrinated type person. You have found faith in your beliefs and its prophets.deathboy
    • and no i will never understadn the motivations of true altruistic people. However I also dont believe in altruism.deathboy
    • there was a house episode where a guy show altruistic traits but was a disease. true altruism is a death sentence. its a sacrifice giving oneself. geneticallydeathboy
    • not a good trait and wont be long lived. faking altruism and getting others to sacrifice for you a whole different storydeathboy
    • something you might look at becuase all church rule and history relies heavily upon. which is odd why the right has the religious and left has the state...deathboy
    • until you see it BOTH THE SAME SHIT. both beleive in omnipotent beings, but differ on the savior. one wan other keep ts to appoint a persondeathboy
    • other keep it metaphysical and old school scripture luddite style. not into rengineering millenniums of social control. historically on both accounts withdeathboy
    • progressive spins or jsut plain religion we see its been a complete failure leading to massive sufferingdeathboy
    • just take it in and think about it. mull it over, test it. its not about being right. its about truth and reason.deathboy
    • db egoist != egotist... but to a degree i used to have similar egoist beliefs to you until i read enough about it to realise it's not true and ultimately selfkingsteven
    • defeating. egoism relies on altruism to exist there are several well known thought experiments that disprove psychological egoism. and a ton of well knownkingsteven
    • examples of selfless altruism. even in a business sense egoism relies on altruism much as lying relies on truth telling. this is accepted by most economistskingsteven
    • and most successful business leaders. your doctrine of homo-economicus is a fallacy circulated as anti-communist propaganda.kingsteven
    • and while i'm a sceptic, you are an ideologically motivated denier... while an exact prediction can not be made on man's impact on the climatekingsteven
    • any rational person wouldn't claim that there's a chance that it is.kingsteven
    • also, to get back to gretta... all 16 year olds are annoying as fuck and of course her youth is promoted as political neutrality but to approach her askingsteven
    • weaponised socialism is just defensive and essentially political xenophobia. capitalism needs social and ecological reform or it will destroy itself.kingsteven
    • haha did you get sucked into some of those leadership cults or something king? you state stuff but not back it. ex how goes egosim relies on altruism to exist?deathboy
    • those leadership cults who take your phone away and and make you cry over 24-48 hours to rebuild you in there network shit is a joke. GET OUT. STAY OUTdeathboy
    • i dont give a fuck about a dumb kid. but who and what dollars behind motivation to promote the kid. not people who happy to give money away and be poor.deathboy
    • if being broke made them happy they'd be broke. if giving money somehow staying even or making more money i get even under a guise of altruismdeathboy
    • let the suckers fund their non work social causes and parties in their namesdeathboy
    • and im a skeptic. and ideological. but always on logic and reason. if i deny i state exactly why. if evidence to the contrary is shown i am happy to adjustdeathboy
    • my ideology exists in philosophical/scient... axioms. not opinion. nor any whim i might be happy to accept.deathboy
    • ... look at your statement capitalism needs social and ecological reform... explain that. because by the sound of it who are cluelessdeathboy
    • deathboy hitting the bottle once again lolutopian
    • Anyone who thinks capitalism is functioning smoothly is a sociopath.i_monk
    • anyone who can't see what is capitalism is a fool..deathboy

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