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    Here is the actual whistleblower complaint

    https://www.scribd.com/document/…

    It's easy to be cynical but if you take the time to read the whole thing...it actually does look extremely bad for Trump. Unlike the Russia controversy these are all direct actions traceable to him.

    This part at the end was also interesting...hopefully Democrats will look into what other phone conversations were placed into this classified system in order to hide from scrutiny.

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    • cover up! he is fucked.neverscared
    • meh. it's all "according to white house officials..." "i learned from multiple us officials..." this is a second hand account, hearsay, in other wordshans_glib
    • Sure but in this case they can check to see if it's true right? All of those conversations and actions will have been recorded by the government.yuekit
    • https://usatthebigle…IRNlun6
    • these transcripts are exactly the kind of conversations I have always assumed went on behind the scenes between leaders.Gnash
    • albeit, I never imagined it in a 3rd grade vocabularyGnash
    • Making foreign policy and national security decisions dependent on whether a foreign country digs up dirt about your political opponent isn't something I wouldyuekit
    • But seriously, having a conversation is illegal? What is he hiding exactly? Is this worse than her emails?monospaced
    • I'm so out of the loop on this since I canceled cable over a year ago.monospaced
    • necessarily expect to hear. Maybe in a third world dictatorship.yuekit
    • impeachment gonna be great for the doofus.neverscared
    • lol, he just talkin live with lots of spit in the mouth.https://twitte...neverscared
    • https://twitter.com/…neverscared
    • Check out the date on the document. Aug. 12, 2019, addressed to non other than Adam Schiff. Unclassified. He's been demanding it be unclassified all week.IRNlun6
    • The transcripts have been released. Non of the accusations Schiff has made have been credible. The Ukrainian President has acknowledged he was not pressured.IRNlun6
    • well, we'll never know if they were worse than her emails, mono, since they were on a private server. At least these are archived appropriatelyGnash
    • @yuekit - I can only base it on hollywood movie portrayals of presidents. seems pretty much to scriptGnash
    • It's well within the rights of a sitting US President to discuss an ongoing investigation. He does not answer to the intelligence agencies.IRNlun6
    • The transcript of the call actually hasn't been released IRNlun6, it's still hidden away somewhere.yuekit
    • I think everyone's gotten extremely jaded due to the nonstop ridiculous news stories Trump generates. But you can't have the president making national securityyuekit
    • decisions based on whether a country can help him smear an opponent in an election.yuekit
    • That does seem like a legitimate reason to impeach to me. It's actually very similar to Watergate where Nixon used law enforcement to try to dig up dirt onyuekit
    • his political opponents.yuekit
    • A new name many may not have heard of yet, CrowdStrike. This is the organization tasked to investigate Russians hacking DNC computers.IRNlun6
    • FBI took them at their word. FBI never actually looked at DNC servers to verify if the claims were true.IRNlun6
    • There is an active investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion investigation.IRNlun6
    • Yes, the transcripts have been released. News outlets have been cherry picking from it for the past day.IRNlun6
    • It's a good example of how Trump fools his own supporters. He made a big fuss about how he was going to release a full transcript, but only released his ownyuekit
    • I hear from someone who told me they had concerns about what they said about overhearing things said about concerns listening to information passed on purpose..robotron3k
    • people's summary or paraphrasing of what was on the call. Not the full transcript.yuekit
    • Dems are implying an ellipses is a redaction, therefor they claim full transcript has not been released.IRNlun6
    • It literally says on the document itself that it's not a full transcript, it's a summary based on notes from the meeting.yuekit
    • The Crowdstrike thing is interesting because it seems to be completely delusional on Trump's part. Yes there was a company called Crowdstrikeyuekit
    • that investigated the hacked server, but there isn't any missing server in Ukraine based on what I've read.yuekit
    • real transript will come out written with a sharpie i am sure.neverscared
    • What is hysterical is Trump could be impeached, removed from office and could run for reelection.robotron3k
    • The hacked DNC server and the subsequent release of emails is the central claim of Russian interference in US elections.IRNlun6
    • Right, but it has nothing to do with Ukraine at all.yuekit
    • The DOJ is investigating how a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a roll in the counter-intelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign.IRNlun6
    • https://www.politico…IRNlun6
    • You're confusing the issue. Trump asked the Ukrainian president about a missing DNC server that he seems to think is hidden in Ukraine somewhere.yuekit
    • He literally seems to think the DNC server was smuggled out of the country and taken to Ukraine for some reason. Probably based on reading conspiracy theories.yuekit
    • https://slate.com/te…yuekit
    • Being that it's an active investigation, there may be more to it than many are implying. The President has full access to all intelligence.IRNlun6
    • In fact this most recent release of information may have compromised some aspects of the investigation.IRNlun6
    • I suspect we'll be hearing a lot more about in the next few weeks/months.IRNlun6
    • The DNC is already heavily implicated in working with other countries to investigate the Trump administration.IRNlun6
    • I don't expect them to just sit back and let fate take its course.IRNlun6
    • fyi, I do appreciate this conversation with you yuekit.IRNlun6
    • Thanks...although I think you may be reading way more into it than actually exists.yuekit
    • i.e. Trump babbling about an imaginary server becomes him having access to secret intelligence and about to break a case against the Dems wide open.yuekit
    • There's something wrong when Trump's supporters are inventing better sounding justifications for his actions than the guy who is actually running the country.yuekit
    • lol, that’s always the case isn’t it?monospaced
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