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  • pango2

    this really is just old people complaining about new things they don't understand or enjoy because they didn't grow up with it.

    Conrad Gessner, a Swiss biologist in the 16th century, really didn’t like the invention of the printing press because, he felt, it would lead to information overload. He urged various monarchs to regulate the trade, so the public wouldn’t have to suffer with the “confusing and harmful abundance of books.”
    ^ old people complaining about books.

    Socrates was not big on actually committing ideas to paper, for example, because he thought it would result in peoples’ memories getting worse. In his own words, “This discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves.”
    ^ old people complaining about writing things on paper.

    CNN article about email hurting the IQ “more than pot” might be something from the early 1990s, but nope, it was published in 2005.
    ^ I wonder what the writer thinks of the methods people send messages today.

    • its not all luddite stuff. there is actual concern for culture obsessed with pointless media and its larger effects.deathboy
    • neil postman wrote plenty about it expertly and think has been provenquite correctly since the 60s about damages of such media.deathboy
    • think a world where heroine has never been declared something bad or harmful... because the dealers are in control. And even education partakes in it. screws updeathboy
    • social nature of tinks. a cultural hiccup to be fixed or to be used as a tool to subjugate politically.deathboy
    • ya and people didn't think highly of radio in 30, because it diminished reading and writing.pango
    • and i dont know of the socrates quote but being a fan of socrates i think you miss the message which i could see familair with him.deathboy
    • and don't tell me you genuinely don't know people do pointless stuffs for amusement.pango
    • To create forgetfullness outside memories is to create blind acceptance. Blind faith in written word like the bible without free think to challenge.deathboy
    • there are always people complaining about the next generation or "concern". but then they turn out fine and go on complaining about the next gen because theypango
    • that would be his fear. tik tok is a useless entertainment gadget that does have ability to falsely sell its relevance.deathboy
    • didn't do it the way it was done in the previous generation.pango
    • and entice fools to follow. adn frankly for the life of me i cant imagien why people concern themselves with ppl they dont knowdeathboy
    • i think social media apps reduce users to grade school shit. condenses the world so small. usually kids mature out of school relizing world is largedeathboy
    • u get those dumb jocks who cant adjsut of course in popular movies. but social media is regressing ppl to think they need to be concerned with peopel they dont.deathboy
    • don't tell me people never write dumb garbage novel like 50shadeOfGrey in the 17th or 18th century. The only diff is people do it them.pango
    • pushing feeds and relevance. I think somehwere people would generally not care but beign connected and dopamine hits and fake closeness they think they need todeathboy
    • care. which makes me question if your parents growing up told you, you have to care about what the most popular kid in school doesdeathboy
    • what he says and try your best to follow their lead and rise to similar standing. everything in social media culture seems to be exactly that without any humilideathboy
    • ty and just pride. call it old ppl complaing about new things, but not things they dont understand. things they find culturally perverse in followingdeathboy
    • ya i completely lost what you're saying when you write at the same time as me... =___=pango
    • rationally and logically. and to the detriment of ppl following it. You post and no follower you are worthless. Best shoot up a school. Where aredeathboy
    • rationally acceptable stanrads when tryign to gain "followers" hell being a follower was an insult in my day. the script has been flipped so harddeathboy
    • wow how this get to school shooting? stretch much?pango
    • instead of being the bitter old man about the current and pinning for the imagined past. Go do what you enjoy doing.pango
    • overall population will be just fine with out your concern. given that you're not the first person to concern about new gen in history.pango
    • unless you like to bitter or "concern" .... if that's the case then i'm speechless.pango
    • I always go and do what i enjoy pango. but i also can be concerned with pop culture. this isnt a iron maiden AR acid king thing. It's not pokemon or 90210. itsdeathboy
    • more looking at what drives, the incentives and the value of the medium. the way it shapes people to think and perceive. really check out neil postmandeathboy
    • amusing ourselves to death is quite a fantastic read. dont think everyone is a luddite for not agreeing they just see things you missed.deathboy
    • whatever you're concerned with, people been doing that since forever. seeking social validation. only difference is scale, accessibility and a recorded video.pango
    • yea the scale is what concerns me. on the academic level... working backwards through postsdeathboy

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