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    more pandering by (mainly) the left as tocqueville said "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

    this is going to be the new norm since people do not realize the destruction they are asking for. hence civil discourse of check and balances of public slush funds and fiscal costs. The PC moral good feelies conquers reason.

    https://reason.com/2019/07/24/re…

    i just don't think many who support this kind of shit have any idea of history or what real effects it will have on their lives. good intentions and hell. good intentions and hell.

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    • or maybe it's dishonest intentions. prime intention is hardly not self interested. the marketed "good" intention is usually always secondary
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    • here's the question for the fools. what is the difference between 15 or 20 dollar minimum wage?
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    • and cut the jokers off i know a 5 dollar difference....
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    • The people who support it have a better grasp of history and the effects of the policy than you will ever have.monospaced
    • The fact you brought up slush funds, as if one exists to pay wages for tipped servers, is proof of your ignorance. This wouldn't come out of tax dollars, ffs.monospaced
    • Oh, and the difference is night and day for the people receiving the wages. 25% increase is not a joke, and it ensures a living wage when tips run out.monospaced
    • Just ask your mom.monospaced
    • show me where in history a raise in minimum wage has been a disaster or has had a negative impact on the economy.dorf
    • he can't
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    • mono you are always so cute. like a cuddly lil baby with no knowledge of the world in secure blanket. dorf can you show it has had no ill effect?
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    • dorf, or even mono. if prosperity comes by raising minimum wages why not go bigger? Basic question. Doubt any answers though
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    • oh and mono. the slush fund comment didn't relate to the article. i apologize if that wasn't clear. it was more targeted at the larger picture and quote
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    • gov can use force to bribe people with money that which is not their own for votes. tax or wage controls are all the same. sometimes i think these are quite
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    • obvious when clearly they are not
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    • If you can point one thing that I do not know about the world in regards to this scenario, please explain. I'll wait.monospaced
    • Now you're equating this policy as a bribe? You're on another fucking planet, dumbass. I dare you to explain how it's a bribe. Fucking retard.monospaced
    • You're the one making the idiotic claim that raising minimum wage for tip-based restaurant staff would be bad for the economy. Burden is on you to show it.monospaced
    • Acting like you're somehow more informed or intelligent than me is hilarious. You're clearly less educated, poorly informed, and in a lower place in life overalmonospaced
    • well did you know minimum wage was tool used to keeps negros from working on the railroad? In western EU you have 9 countries with no minimum wage that do
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    • better than the others. some countries are those touted by local US ppl as GREAT!
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    • https://www.nytimes.…
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    • plenty of articles to local markets that artificially inflate wages that end badly if you just google. its pretty simple when a business has thin margins
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    • and now has added cost, either you pass the cost on to customer as inflation or find ways to cut overhead. can do this by advertising no tip, losing staff,
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    • more part time. Where do you think the money will come from for arbitrary "minimum wage" numbers? I'm more curious about that. Where will the money come from?
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    • And mono its a bribe to every person who makes less than the minimum wage. You vote for me you get more money. They don't tell them they'll likely also get fire
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    • d. they need the cheap labor that more than likely not smart enough to figure it out, to buy the lie. And some times that net traps simps like you to cheerlead
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    • it on. And maybe your not a simp, maybe educated. maybe indoctrinated to believe dumb shit. LOOK IT UP. Unless you like the ignorance is bliss. I have no prob
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    • lem with people who go that route and admit it. Personally they might be the "smarter" ones.
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    • Here's another question. Would you hire a completely unskilled laborer for 15 dollars an hour? Do you think everyone can command that price? If not you
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    • just forced them to beg instead. Since illegal for even unpaid internships. Or do you think these people who aren't worth minimum wage should go to school until
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    • worth it. k-12 not enough will higher edu expense really be in best interest? think it through a lil. watch some friedman https://www.youtube.…
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    • ?
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    • wages aren't bribes, and as long as you keep getting hung up on this kind of thing, you can't have a real discussionmonospaced
    • You keep asking where the money will come from. It comes from the employers, dumbass. It's not a governmnet subsidy. You keep making that mistake.monospaced
    • If someone is currently making less than minimum wage, their employer is breaking a state or federal law.monospaced
    • If someone can't pay minimum wage for even unskilled labor, they're just assholes and don't deserve the work. Your arguments are absolutely full of holes.monospaced
    • Your entire argument is that employers should be able to pay less than minimum wage, and unskilled labor isn't worth a living wage. Right? Asshole.monospaced
    • I seriously hope you lose your job (if you have one), and are forced to work minimum wage. You might change your heartless, unethical, morally fucked view.monospaced
    • Disturbing how conservatives are so ethically challenged. Family values my ass.monospaced
    • mandatory wages pitched by politicians are 100% bribes. you can say no but your an idiot for it.
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    • employers dont magically create new funds. a higher wage means higher costs on all products. do you think profit margins wont be effected and have no effect?
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    • to make up for funds they raise prices. that is articial sector inflation. A larger push for higher pay low wage jobs will increase employment
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    • simply because stupid robots will be better than those simps. I love it that you want to force the worst out of having a job. increasing homelessness
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    • you will pay for it if you have any asset. remember this in ten years
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    • and funny such a good soul u hope i lose my job.... get the hypocrisy right?... any ways i have always done above minimum wage (legal jobs)
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    • I struggle mos tin college and when i gave that up and dropped out I did far better. could buy groceries without calculating costs in head
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    • i dont think you have ever had to work for it. i bet you never even worked pre teens. or even high school.
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    • just a person being manipulated at guilt. trust me if you were born into a better situation i could careless. carry no guilt son
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    • oh and you didnt mention if you believe all souls are worth 15 an hour. strong question for the base.
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    • you are such a naive, yet vocal person. reminds me of my pup barking at anything it think it intrudes on its beliefs
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