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re: andrew yang
https://thebaffler.com/latest/an…
When asked about his broader political ideology by VICE contributor Alicia Menendez, Yang replied that he is “deeply pragmatic.” This tracks with the characterization of UBI as not left, not right, but forward, a slogan popularized by UBI-advocate Scott Santens and eventually adopted by Yang’s campaign materials. This conception of UBI is part of a prevailing, grotesque notion that policies and policymakers are preferable when they are devoid of politics. And that toothless type of politics-less-ness drives Yang’s support among reddit memelords, technocratic liberals, libertarians, and white supremacists (that, and his engagement on right-wing media platforms with Dave Rubin, Sam Harris, and Ben Shapiro).
- really, fuck technoutopian savior state mentality.colin_s
- ugh. why does every single media source that leans to the left sling around "white supremacists!" hyperbole at anyone on the right.inteliboy
- The thing is, not everyone wants to be part of a union or a worker co op. I see the basic income concept as providing some capital to small business people.yuekit
- also then to utter Rubin, Harris and Shapiro straight after is so completely out of touch it's kind of repulsive. toxic media everywhere.inteliboy
- there is absolutely zero website or source of news & editorials that seems sane and nuanced.inteliboy
- @yuekit a UBI would make arguments against wage stagnation or income inequality that much more difficult- it gives liberals a path out of moralitycolin_s
- @inteliboy did you read the rest of the article ?colin_s
- It’s vice, inteliboy. May as well get your news from teen vogueGnash
- colin_s As far as I can tell most liberals and centrists aren't pushing for a basic income -- too expensive and radical for them. They tend to preferyuekit
- things like tax credits and targeted subsidies.yuekit
- Sure there are a few people in Silicon Valley who have said they support it, does that automatically make it a bad idea?yuekit
- It's unlikely to be implemented in the U.S. anytime soon, but in theory I think a UBI could actually be very successful in reducing inequality.yuekit
- Because let's face it most other welfare programs are simply designed to keep you from dying or going hungry as you work your shitty 9 to 5 job.yuekit
- Basic income is the only idea I've heard that would actually give people money to spend or invest to improve their situation.yuekit
- @yuekit i would agree if i didn't believe that neoliberal technocrats wouldn't use it as an excuse to wipe out social security, and disregard the inequalitycolin_s
- @gnash read the full article the baffler isn't teen voguecolin_s
- The first 2.5 paragraphs were enough. Cliched, cult-approved descriptors abound.Gnash
- Just get rid of all social programs as you fear and adopt a negative income tax. Just no every politcians will want to increase it despite rational budgets********
- but it is a basic program so you dont starve working. why work if you get enough to invest and spend without work.********