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peterson is a cunt
- socialism is cancerMorning_star
- haha. A lot of hate in this thread. And i think young Colin here hates a lot of things. Chill man. Take some acid and try sucking your own dickIanbolton
- fuckinglol, ianNairn
- Go on then, It is Friday after all.Morning_star
- peterson is a cunt though. it's a shame as he may have a poin.... nope! i jest, he's full of shit too, and sounds like kermit the frog.kingsteven
- there is just nothing controversial about what he goes on about. I find it so amusing how triggered people get by himGnash
- He does have a voice like Kermit, and we all know how that green amphibious prick is a Jew hating nazi. The clues are there if you’re a delusional socialist.Morning_star
- he's a cliff notes version of right-leaning philosophy for people that enjoy the idea of ayn rand without actually considering the world at largecolin_s
- he's representative of western individualism and pseudo-intellectual debate for the self-serving. also, i'm not a socialist there morningstar.colin_s
- Individual thinking (taking care of 'you and yours' first) is better for the 'world at large' than trying to create a' one size fits all' method IMHOPonyBoy
- :)fadein11
- i suppose there are two types.
'we're all in the boat together' &
'I've got mine, fuck you'
personally, i think we're all in the boat together.exador1 - Jesus colin shut up. Peterson isnt right or left and hes not threatening whatever garbage you follow.cannonball1978
- @exador1 you say that like: those are the only two choices we have in every part of our lives; and once you choose one, you can't choose the other.Morning_star
- nope.
i say that as someone that has reached middle age, raised to kids and has seen a thing or two.exador1 - and I've noticed
a) there are those that think we can all work together to make things better.exador1 - and
b) those that don't.exador1 - my guess is that if you think 'socialism is a cancer' you know which section you belong in.exador1
- i inhabit both a) and b) and neither. i too have raised two kids, travelled the globe and i'm the wrong side of 40 and i don't think socialism is cancer but...Morning_star
- ...it can be. The social hierarchy we live in would suggest it's perfectly acceptable to put your own children first before others. Does that mean i'm in...Morning_star
- ...category b) for every decision i make? No.Morning_star
- @canonball i said he's representative of. libertarians are right-leaning and i'd say he's closest to that, and he hates leftist ideas... so, seems right-leaningcolin_s
- @ponyboy i think that that when systems are designed to divide people they end up with significantly disparate pools of despair among the peoplecolin_s
- to which the only commonality between people is their anxiety but no fix can be agreed upon because of such radical divisionscolin_s
- XanaxMorning_star
- @colin libertarianism is not right leaning. Libertarianism is anarchy with a market, so less, neither left or right. Disabuse yourself of polarized thinking.cannonball1978
- @cannon, to my mind markets without regulation are inherently right-leaning, empowering accumulated wealth, "wild west" type psychologiescolin_s
- anarchy is the concept we would all be just and good to one another, forming a society that would benefit all without the need for a state; trade, not marketscolin_s
- and that the community, not the individual, would be responsible for any necessary acts toward justice and the betterment of allcolin_s
- libertarianism (as practiced today) is right leaning! and is as mutually exclusive from anarchism as objectivism is of altruism. i can take the 'socialism iskingsteven
- cancer' shite in that it's inevitable as it runs against the libertarian status quo. i don't get how folks don't see that sanders 'market socialism' is not thatkingsteven
- as i don't get 'left wing = cultural marxism = pronouns' or 'anarchism = individualism' that's not how it works, just don't be a cunt and we might all make it.kingsteven
- Colin anarchy does not subscribe necessarily to any of the things you said it does.cannonball1978
- Libertarianism’s old name was “corporate anarchy”, so yes, it is precisely a flavor of anarchy.cannonball1978
- This is getting off track though. I havent seen Peterson say he is a libertarian (or anything) anywhere.cannonball1978
- when was group thinking ever good? groups teach you not to question. groups teach you to conformhotroddy
- science and western progress was built on a few individuals who were not afraid to questionhotroddy
- peterson is so good at challenging your SJW thoughts that all you can do is call him a cunt.hotroddy
- market anarchism is not anarchism as market socialism is not socialism. fully developed anarchism is free association: social anarchism.kingsteven
- i'm not SJW in the slightest. a bit on the anarchist marxist side i'll admit but riled by many of the same issues... i just don't like Petersonkingsteven
- a few of these cunts I don't mind irregardless of him possibly being a nazi harris's, neuroscience based meditation stuff is great.kingsteven
- where i'd draw a line on SJWs i'd also generally draw a line on reactionary right/ conservative activism thats at the core of peterson/ IDW movement.kingsteven
- it might be necessary to a degree to stop chunks of leftist postmodern philosophy, but trump is postmodernist. peterson's 'cultural marxism' frames the left forkingsteven
- something that exists in the extremities of both sides. meanwhile defence of the individual is mostly in face of the attack proposed by the left on the 'dollarkingsteven
- hunting man' like individual wealth / market libertarianism is the only thing to defend...kingsteven
- when the real front-line of trans activism/ SJW movement is the battle with old school leftist feminism. IDW is a side show.kingsteven
- Wtf is an “anarchist marxist side”. Anarchy is the government of the self, not the group. Therefore it is not left or right. It does away with that moronic modecannonball1978
- it's not that hard... communism without the state, or libertarianism without private ownership of the means of production... take your pick.kingsteven
- That sounds a recipe for lots of dead people. Any examples of how this has worked in practice?Morning_star
- Theres no communism without a state. That’s just called being a neighbor thats not an asshole.cannonball1978
- ha, have you even heard of marx? don't believe it's ever been used in practice (outside business and being the basic principle of open source development)kingsteven
- it's a well theorised post-capitalist utopia. the assumption being that capitalism will take us to the brink and technology will remove the need for the state.kingsteven
- i'm not a communist btw :-D but i see these reactionary blows to marxism from folks that are essentially free-market anarchists all the time.kingsteven
- to get back to the topic... how can you defend peterson's linking between postmodernism and 'cultural marxism' via trans activism? other thankingsteven
- right wing, conservative, anti-revolutionary, ideological protectionism... IDW is a late capitalist panic-mode side show.kingsteven
- I don't think you've listened to Peterson/IDW at all. I think you carry a huge sack of sensational misconception and bias with regard to what's being said....Morning_star
- ...Could you shed some light on what 'via trans activism' alludes to?Morning_star
- Peterson was forced to stop teaching at university of toronto (and launched his speaking career off the back of) criticising the adoption of gender pronounskingsteven
- which would be a terrible thing (as it is in the case of Bret Weinstein/ Evergreen) if he didn't come across as an absolute cunt.kingsteven
- You know nothing. He criticised compelled speech. You know, the law dictating what a person utters. The fact that it was legislation about gender pronouns...Morning_star
- I agree MS, i'm picking and choosing from his vast repertoire. There's just there's plenty of folks making the same points while not being cunts.kingsteven
- ...is largely irrelevant.Morning_star
- Have a listen from 21:35
https://youtu.be/aMc…Morning_star - he's still a full professor at UofTGnash
- Yes, but he hasn't taught in a couple of years. He criticised compelled speech, but he launched his speaking career because of the media controversy of hiskingsteven
- disputes with trans activists. I'm not sure what your getting at with posting that video, I've seen it before and many others...kingsteven
- he talks about the authoritarianism and group identity politics of the far left and compares trans activists to Mao. which IS fucking ridiculous...kingsteven
- comparing a bunch of reactionary students, a murderous communist regime and marx... i've seen him squirm out of his defence of this argument a bunch of times...kingsteven
- the only commonality in his work I can find is that it appeals to the mentality of his supporters, engaging them with logical responses to their existing biaseskingsteven
- directing them away from revolutionary thought to the center right/ conservatism.kingsteven
- (as much as you may like the sound of it, he wasn't "forced" to stop teaching)Gnash
- I'm STILL not sure how he's actually a cunt. That's a pretty sharp term to use on someone who's tried to be an encouragement for peopleIanbolton
- He was forced, in that I think he would have liked to continue lecturing.kingsteven
- he's chosen to milk his new-found fame and lecture to wider audience. Saying that he was "forced" suggested that the he had no choice. which isn't at all trueGnash
- for now, he choosing not to waste his time lecturing to a small group of ass-hats who think pulling fire-alarms is an appropriate way to get ones' point acrossGnash
- where did you read this? he can't lecture and would have been fired if not for tenure. i believe he has said so himself.kingsteven
- i watched the whole thing evolve from a local news story (i live in toronto) to what's it's become now.Gnash
- besides, a lot more reasonable commentators on extremist activists have been fired for less. i think you're giving him the benefit of the doubt!kingsteven
- I'm sure UofT would love to shed themselves of the controversy, and I'm sure they are thrilled that he's touring instead of teaching there.Gnash
- the school knows that trying to stop him from teaching would spark a shit-storm of neg publicityGnash
- they know they don't really a have a leg to stand on to fire him, and either way it goes they lose.Gnash
- well, that's meant to be the point of having tenure after all... but it doesn't give him the right to teach there. i'd also say peterson wouldn't want to bringkingsteven
- the academic system in to further disrepute by challenging the faculty further and getting fired.kingsteven
- What disrepute has Peterson caused Academia or UofT?Morning_star
- (he can absolutely teach there is he choses to, though.)Gnash
- referring to the disrepute the system is in by harbouring the sort of hyper moralisation/ laundering of extremist identity politics that he spoke out against inkingsteven
- the first place, if he turned up to give a lecture with armed guards only to cause a riot it's not going to look good for anyone.kingsteven
- i'd have to say i'm very weary of public intellectual blueprint in general but you don't see Dawkins writing books about 'happiness', i just don't trust that...kingsteven
- it's like he saw harris picking up steam going from atheism to neuroscience backed meditation (while being a bit racist)kingsteven
- and thought "i've got a platform now", "i'll teach the world how to be a canadian conservative." :-Dkingsteven