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The thing about abortion law is when talking about it there isn't much discussion involved on popular ideas of its. Specifically when does a fetus/child gain the moral rights we specify by law for humans. The law is pretty subjective regarding rights. Children don't have the same right's as adults, and different rights for those not based on age but guardianship. Different cultures different age rights all around.
What should be acceptable? Chime in on base and special cases on the notes. Lets see if we get disapproval of ideas amongst supporters of abortion.
Im a bit old school in and animalistic in the nature of it. Terms, years, are all bit arbitrary amongst the unaware, but even in society there are those who are a certain age and yet still unaware... It's a tough one. Our moral rights are largely made up based on certain rules and criteria, but at the end of the day many things fall into a gray area were things are not so black and white as such subjects of the bill of rights (which also is widely still contested on perception and persepective)
Considering it hardly effects society I'm far more open to parents choices with less lines in the sand. Also not a huge priority for me on gov rulings. I think cutting funding of planned parenthood with the large lobbying base and allowing over the counter prescriptions (planned parenthood doesnt like). I think that is a bigger thing that is worth getting behind for majority of people and "rights" and responsibility. Let idiots in alabama have their way. Fund clinics on the border at a profit. Shits like fireworks on reservations. all new kinds of markets which can still serve the people. It's a shame but society is somewhat of a compromise on deciding the grays areas. This case a bit more like the inconvenience and tax of purchasing a silencer, or needing to load more clips at the range.
- See above. The wealthy will always be able to travel for abortions. Poor won't be able to. PP is for easy access and education, they are wonderful.formed
- They actually care about people. No idea what you are talking about with otc.formed
- Let the idiots in Alabama have their way? They don't actually represent the wholepopulation. They represent only a fraction of ultra-conservatives, not allwomenmonospaced
- Look it up formed. The more you know. https://reason.com/2…********
- And its not too expensive to leave a state. But yes it is regressive to the poor. As so many laws drafted are. Surprisingly more so on the side protecting them********
- Minimum wage laws ... pretty regressive.********
- And mono Alabama ppl voted and elected their officials. Its a sign of majority in alabama. That is democracy. Not always smart********
- as justice roberts said in ruling for obama care and choosing judicial preference.********
- Cant find the exact quote but love his precision. basically populism isnt always right and as much as we may disagree it was a democratically elected official.********
- so we stand by it for now, but if popular opinion changes so will our views. which on one had shows a certain acceptance, but also cowardice in upholding********
- other rule of law and respects to methods of taxation. Primarily a tax on abstainment which is still logically absurd.********
- also since you mentioned women. this would be a part of larger law that isn't black and white. Does the women always have the choice? Her body but what if********
- father denies it. Clearly many situations can be dreamt of to favor each, but that shows no clear axiom is in play. Such a thing shoudl be resolved in court********
- i think its better decided upon state by state, ignoring my own preferences.i dont live in alabama should i decide for them?********
- i live in nevada but should i let CA/NY decide rights for me? Being so arbitrary it has to be left to the states and people********
- Electing an official is not the same as voting for their policies down the line, regardless of what you think. Sorry it's not the same.monospaced
- If you were to poll the nation, it would be painfully obvious that only a small minority of people want a change in laws.monospaced
- No it is the same that is democracy. You do know how this shit works right? And nation polling is exactly my point as irrelevant. Should i force my gun rights********
- on NY even if constitutional if no one votes or any representative wants them? Not my place you give it up but dont ask others********
- The majority of Alabama is not in support of banning abortion. That is democracy gone wrong. It won’t pass btw.monospaced
- well will see. remember pemdulums swing in opposite directions. what you say can be said about obamacare and judicial restraint********
- irrelevantmonospaced