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as far as the bernie bros goes this is interesting
https://www.marketwatch.com/stor…
he blasts the companies that help fund his nordic socialist utopia... smart of them to hedge oil into stocks but a limited play...
- Isn't that just a wealth fund for the future? It's not how Norway pays for any of their social spending programs as far as I can tell.yuekit
- not sure how it's all spent. probably pension system? more along the lines of needing private markets and corporations large profits, buybacks.********
- or maybe bernie would not support such a thing and dilute the fund in a couple years on free shit.********
- Sovereign wealth funds are very common. The rules around what they are spent on and how they invest differs from country to countrylowimpakt
- @death I'm sorry, I thought of this when I read the post https://thenib.com/m…. Your premise is unclear and repubs blast the same companiesT-Dawg
- I think I understand what you're trying to say but there are a lot of fill-in-the-blanks.T-Dawg
- And it's part of this lack of clarity that I find leads to bad political discussion, rather than productive discussion.T-Dawg
- lol tdawg yea it is like that.there is a lot of fill in the blanks and larger picture stuff. but at the same time those things dont get attention on the********
- campaign trail by the hucksters. more of slam to free "this" slogans based on irrational comparisons********
- but i do have some obama style hope that such facts might help people question or challenge fed narratives********
- productive discussion towards nordic areas should be more poignant on where wealth is derived, numbers and culture.********
- sustainability, economies local and globally, with exports/imports and real costs. and not just saying because someone has a big wheel i should have one too.********
- if we want to talk about bernies policy we can simply talk numbers and see it as completely unsustainable and basically immoral if you believe in property right********
- but no one wants the hard fact numbers********
- Norwegian Oil Fund info https://www.nbim.no/…inv
- https://www.nbim.no/…inv
- Thanks for elaborating deathb. I agree that big picture issues are usually lost in our quick-to-digest news absorption.T-Dawg
- I also think the 'give stuff away for free' headlines are actually a narrative coming from the right, which is an idea much a much easier to smear.T-Dawg
- We should be looking at the numbers, and the larger picture like you mentioned. No one on the left (that I've heard) actually thinks this stuff is free.T-Dawg
- On the side, that norwegian oil fund website is awesomely built, so easy to use and packed with info.T-Dawg
- I'd expect the right to smear the free stuff policies. They are pitched as free stuff to voters. My experience is ppl on the left/right seem to stop caring abou********
- t details or costs after deciding it's something they would like. Neither party believes something to be "free" but selectively decides to not look further.********
- have their cake and eat it too pretty much. And it bugs me all the while talking of greed these same people are oblivious or stubborn to admit their own greed.********
- specially love the ones who try to hide greed behind ideas of a "right"********