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'The Republican Party has a secret weapon for 2020. It’s especially effective because it’s stealthy: The Democrats seem oblivious to its power. And the GOP needn’t lift a finger for it to work. All Republicans have to do is sit back and watch 29-year-old Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez . . . exist.
- nah they just have to wait for the democrats to implode while trying to dance around the term socialism without actually embracing it because of hercolin_s
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Too bad we'll never know what this article actually says. I blame capitalism...yuekit - no need to read it really, you can guess the rest based on the openingGnash
- I have to assume it's making fun of the Republican Party satirically for their overreaction to someone who poses no threat to the 2020 electionsmonospaced
- There's no way she's actually a secret weapon for Republicans, seeing as she's just a new junior senator with almost no bearing on the party's future.monospaced
- it's obviously working, then :)Gnash
- How so?monospaced
- Her 'green new deal' (8th grade B- Social Studies paper) seems to be a bit of a Bible to many Dems whom are running... bearing plenty of influence on the party.PonyBoy
- This article cites a paper she wrote in junior high as a reason the democrats won't win the 2020 election? That makes my case even stronger ;)monospaced
- If that's the case, it's definitely satire making fun of the Republican party.monospaced
- The paper is written at the level of an 8th grader... but unfortunately put together by actual elected DemocratsPonyBoy
- Did you read it or just relying on Trump and Fox News' interpretation? Because that sounds like the line he used...yuekit
- You guys are imagining that voters will be faced with the choice between Trump and someone else and their thought process will be... yeah but that random chickyuekit
- in Congress, she's too crazy and unrealistic... yep, I'm voting for Trump. I don't think that how it's gonna work... ;)yuekit
- I don't think I'm 'imagining' anything other than once again two shitty options to choose from of which we'll all argue over who is shittier.PonyBoy
- obviously, AOC et ilk are not going to sway any dems away from the party. It's the pubs that are are tired of orange that need to be convinced to changeGnash
- and that is why the pubs want her front and centre. to keep those fence sitters leaning right. Her squad just needs to keep keepin'onGnash
- the fact that you guys don't see that does not bode well for a regime change in 2020Gnash
- You hear more about AOC from right wing nuts complaining about her.inteliboy
- Apparently if you watch Fox News it's like 24/7 coverage of her and how bad she is lol. But it's kind of silly to think that ANY Democrat is not going to beyuekit
- demonized by Fox and other conservative media. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both got the same treatment in spite of being more moderate.yuekit
- Realistically I don't think you are really going to convince many Republicans (esp those who watch conservative media) to switch and vote for the Democrat.yuekit
- Trump actually has very high approval among Republicans, he just happens to have low approval overall.yuekit
- The challenge for Democrats is not to convince Republicans, it's to get their larger voting base to actually show up and vote. Which explains why Obama won twoyuekit
- times but Clinton lost. A lot of the Democrat voters, especially blacks and young people, couldn't be bothered to show up for Clinton.yuekit
- that is a losing strategy. there are just as many pub yokels that didn't bother voting last time.Gnash
- It worked for Obama two times. In both elections he got several million more votes than either Trump or Clinton did in 2016.yuekit
- obama was a great candidate, and he'd win again if he was able to run (yay for canada), The dems are nowhere near in the same boatGnash
- I'm no so optimistic that the aoc squad is helping in any way.Gnash
- I agree there are none that jump out as being as charismatic as Obama. At the same time, people are genuinely sick of Trump. The midterms showed that.yuekit
- Trump won somewhat on a fluke by being able to win Midwestern states that normally vote Dem. Almost all those states swung back to the Democrats in the midtermsyuekit
- yes, people are sick of trump, but not sick enough to coalesce around the brand that aoc projects so loudly (i'm talking about the swing votes here)Gnash
- the hoi polloi don't discern the subtleties of social reform, nor the nuance of fiscal policies. They'll be swayed by stories that speak to them, true or notGnash
- and the stories that aoc et al weave resonate perfectly with the stories trump spews out, amplifying the message to the plebsGnash
- I think there is a good way to move to the left and a bad way. Clearly some of the cultural issues can be very divisive. At the same time, one of the failuresyuekit
- of Democrats in the past is that they didn't do enough to help people in economically distressed areas, and a lot of voters abandoned them over that.yuekit
- you're right. but I don't see anything that the dems are doing now to address that failure.Gnash
- AOC is not speaking to them at all, despite the words she's using that may suggest otherwise.Gnash
- She, too, is talking to an 'elite' just not the same elite as the other guysGnash
- I still think you're focusing way too much on her. More important will be who the nominee is. Almost all Dems have some kind of proposal for enrolling peopleyuekit
- in public insurance which is very popular. Health care is the #1 concern for voters, and Republicans have basically nothing to offer on that at all.yuekit
- perhaps, i am. But the GOP is using her (successfully, i think) as a big reason to vote pub. and this helps them hide that they have nothing to offerGnash
- the msm made her a 'star', GOP are just exploiting it.Gnash
- I think what you're both forgetting is the very low voter turnout in your elections. Motivating people who don't usually vote to do so is how the dems usuallyzarkonite
- win. Note how the last mid-term had a record turnout, I think this is the key to why orangetard might not get re-elected.zarkonite
- She's on the cover on Time... A lefty rag... not from the GOP. The left can't stop putting her on TV/in print.. she's everyone's fav person right nowPonyBoy
- Agreed zarkonite, it seems almost too obvious to mention at this point but a lot of people really do hate Trump and will turn out in huge numbers to voteyuekit
- against him. Even with the strong economy his numbers are shit which is kind of amazing.yuekit
- remember that it also too obvious to mention how unlikely it was for trump to win in the first placeGnash
- Yup, and of course he could win again. Just saying if you are going to mention Ocasio-Cortez as a negative, Trump is equally extreme and unpopular and unlikeyuekit
- her, actually a candidate in the upcoming election.yuekit
- trueGnash