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    And you worry how we are going to pay for stuff?!

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    • I sure can't think of any other 30 second videos this week that don't give the full context... thanks for this informative contribution to discourseT-Dawg
    • she said that the world will end in 12 years because of climate change and that we shouldn't worry how to pay for anything. This chick is insane.Boz
    • thank goodness she's not presidentmonospaced
    • wouldn't want a president that made up lies like this would we ... oh, wait, that's what we havemonospaced
    • not a great phrase but the 12 year timeframe was given by the world's leading climate scientists as the time left to prevent the worst effects of climate changelowimpakt
    • I don't believe she believes the world will "end" in 12 years either.monospaced
    • Let's build a wall to prevent this!nbq
    • Imagine literally supporting Trump and then calling someone else stupid ;Dyuekit
    • seriouslymonospaced
    • Same BS Al Gore spewed... according to him we should all already be dead. She also thinks it’s ‘immoral’ that we have a system where billiomaires can exist.PonyBoy
    • *billionairesPonyBoy
    • billionaires may be a function of an economic system that has income inequality designed in. It could be argued that such as system is not morally justifiedlowimpakt
    • Or perhaps billionaires exist because they created a method / service / product that has changed shit and they're reaping the benefits of their ingenuity?PonyBoy
    • She's not going to fuck you, Boz.BonSeff
    • Or perhaps billionaires exist because our political system makes politicians reliant on $, and those legislators in tilt the tables of society in their favor?mathinc
    • Tickle-down economics, low taxes on upper incomes, for example.mathinc
    • she has a nice body though I won't lie. That dancing video is sexy ;)Boz
    • math... do the math :) you say 'low taxes' on upper incomes... do you realize the % of the overall nut those lower taxes on higher incomes actually pays?PonyBoy
    • check this: https://taxfoundatio…PonyBoy
    • "In 2014, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.3 percent of all individual income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.7 percent."PonyBoy
    • The 'rich' are already paying the lion's share... what more would you like? Are you for bumping the % on the wealthy in upwards of 70+%?PonyBoy
    • ... cuz I can't understand why we'd 'penalize' folks for being successful even when they already payout the majority in taxes.PonyBoy
    • ok, "entrepreneurs" pay the bulk of tax due to accumulated wealth while their employees have to use food stamps and other forms of corporate welfarelowimpakt
    • or you have a greater tax income due to a greater amount of people have economic power and reduced inequalitylowimpakt
    • most legitimate economic organisations know that inequality is harmful to society and the economy https://www.weforum.…lowimpakt
    • http://www.oecd.org/… & https://www.worldban…lowimpakt
    • https://www.mckinsey…lowimpakt
    • there isn't a single fucking startup and entrepreneur who has their employees on food stamps. That's just a bunch of horseshit.Boz
    • there's not too many startup billionaires but some Amazon employees rely on food stamps https://www.wired.co…lowimpakt
    • In the UK, taxpayers pay £11 billion a year to fund tax credits so that that underpaid employees in companies that make £billion + pre-tax profits can survive.lowimpakt
    • +1 lowimpakt also including some nurses in the NHS now reliant on food banks.fadein11
    • no offense... but I don't give a shit about the UK in this conversation... we're not the same countries and our populations don't even compare in sizePonyBoy
    • no offence... not caring about what happens in other countries is often a symptom of nativist ignorance.lowimpakt
    • We're talking about what AO-C wants to do to the States... stay on topic.PonyBoy
    • "The world will end in 12 years" is a good counter to "there is no such thing as climate change". She represents a natural response to the insanities that havezarkonite
    • been coming out the GOP clan for a while now. Just like the tea party and freedom caucus' MO of destroying the government at all cost created this wave of ultrazarkonite
    • left-wing socialists.zarkonite
    • Gore told us something similar... the ices caps were to be melted by 2014... so fearmongering w/out sound proof seems to run in the 'family'PonyBoy
    • "stay on topic" did you miss the bit about the WORLD ending. The statement that this whole thread is about?lowimpakt
    • like... omg- the world like- is like- going to end in 12 years... and like this is like... our world II... and like...like- I need 70% of your money to save youPonyBoy
    • fuck OFF, with nonsense, low... fuck right offPonyBoy
    • with *that nonsense
      :)      PonyBoy
    • "this wave of ultra left-wing socialists"
      wow - some of you guys need recalibrating.      fadein11
    • http://www.51allout.…lowimpakt
    • it's amazing how much attention she gets. look how much uproar 1, just 1, young congresswoman can rile up from people.inteliboy
    • also, she says very normal, very boring stuff. though the USA is so far right leaning she's some how in the ultra left. bizarre.inteliboy
    • fadein11: pls explain? 70% tax rate is not ultra left-wing socialist? the new dems are not all (almost) left leaning?zarkonite
    • "Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007, where she won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with ayuekit
    • microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on C. elegans' lifespan. As a result, the International Astronomical Union named a smallyuekit
    • asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez."yuekit
    • ^ From her Wiki page. How many of you nitpickers had asteroids named after you, huh?yuekit
    • I asteroid can destroy the world, yuekitty... :PPonyBoy
    • @zarkonite - it's 70% on earnings over a very high threshold, noones gonna lose 70% of their earnings. It's quite commonplace. I wouldn't call it 'ultra left-fadein11
    • wing socialism' nope. The rich still remain obscenely wealthy yet they get to do something useful with their unused coffers. ha.fadein11
    • zarkonite, from 1935 -1980 the US top tax rate was above 70% a& up to 92% during WW2. You weren't a socialist state then so it does not make you one nowlowimpakt
    • the middle class have taken a real battering over the last 30 years, yet people are worried about the super rich, just doesn't add up (excuse the pun).fadein11
    • She wants to raise taxes to enable social measures, historically the US has used those high top end tax rates to pay down debt.zarkonite
    • Currently the federal government takes in $3.8trillion dollars in revenue. If they can't find the money they need in there, they simply don't have the politicalzarkonite
    • courage to trim programs and optimize how they spend.zarkonite
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