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They are all very reasonable and highly intelligent people. The reason the left hates them is because they talk about reality of biology and life in general, they point out the lunacy of identity politics and group identity over personal responsibility and freedom of speech and the lefties hate them for it because it completely destroys their bubbles of delusion.
Most of the people "criticizing" them are pretty much illiterate social justice warriors who read a few books and now have a voice thanks to social media.
Almost all of them regardless of their political leanings (Eric/Bret being liberal), Ben Shapiro conservative, Dave Rubin more libertarian than classic liberal at this point, Joe Rogan as well although a bit outside of it, are extremely well educated and well read people who talk pretty much common sense and truths and when they do anyone who identifies with group identity will hate them because it flies directly against their asinine arguments and insanity.
Also, if you haven't watched anything with Christina Hoff Sommers I highly recommend it as well.
One of the really amazing interviews Dave Rubin had was with this pretty brilliant and inspiring young man Coleman Hughes and one of my favorites among his interviews:
But also the new interview with Peterson and Shapiro was great to listen to yesterday talking about all this:
Also, Dave Rubin's talk at Oxford was spot on and his Q/A session was really great to listen to.
Joe Rogan also had Peterson for 3+ hours yesterday or the day before yesterday. Great interview!
I especially love listening to Eric and Bret Weinstein. Two brilliant brothers and even though Bret tries to be more politically correct and talk mostly about biology as it is his field, Eric discusses even some liberal ideas in a way where I get where he is coming from even though I don't necessarily agree with everything he might say.
Peterson has really tough voice to listen to but he I admire him and how intelligent he is, but mostly because he doesn't get pushed around by social justice warrior reporters and goes really deep into history/evolution/human nature in terms of psychology and biology and dismantles their asinine ideas with facts and study.
I personally think that they are stigmatized and hated because they are directly flying against this tribal, identity politics and authoritarian ideas of the left today in academia, media and social media. They are exposing the lunacy with common sense, science and facts and being the danger as a lot of people are waking up, they have to be destroyed. This is how the left today works and it's no wonder that young people, especially gen Z are realizing this more than ever.
Highly recommend you watch the videos I posted, very interesting to watch. I really only dislike Sam Harris somewhat but it's really a bit of a personal vibe and the way he presents some things rather than "hate" him. But that's the most amazing thing, it's the group of people who might even have deep intellectual disagreements but are defending the last pillars of western civilization with freedom of speech, science and facts and not through an ideological lens.
- I posted a part of the interview with Hughes, this is the full interview:
https://www.youtube.…Boz - +1
Incase you haven't heard it: Sam Harris & Coleman Hughes. https://youtu.be/gqt…Morning_star - I agree with you about Harris but i find myself listening to him a lot because of his reputation as one of the original New Atheists...Morning_star
- ..and he seems to attract the best guests to his Podcast. He can be a bit like Dawkins in a sense and that he has this unwavering confidence that he is right...Morning_star
- ...about everything. I think Peterson showed him to be a bit dismissive in their discussion series. As for Bret, you're exactly right.Morning_star
- Funny, out of the bunch I like Sam Harris the most.inteliboy
- One thing that bothers me politically, is that they whine about the left A LOT. Where the lunacy of Fox News far right babbling narratives are ignored.inteliboy
- I think it's a particular type of Left leaning character that are the objects of their criticism and the Marxist Ideology that they espouse.Morning_star
- true, though I listen to rubin recent podcast with Shapiro and Peterson - and they pretty much just complained about the left the entire time.inteliboy
- whilst also having a dig at some of Sam Harris's views whilst he wasn't there to defend himself.inteliboy
- Yeah you would expect that someone who claims to be a “classical liberal” like Dave Rubin would be all over Trump’s attacks on free speech, free trade andyuekit
- science. And yet...radio silence from that guy. Which tells me he is more interested in cultivating his right-wing audience than in genuinely promoting thoseyuekit
- issues. Meanwhile Shapiro appears to be an outright climate change denier, not very Logic and Reason is it?yuekit
- @yuekit You seem to be adding 2+2 and getting 5 as usual.Morning_star
- Well it’s true that he doesn’t criticize Trump, not sure what part you are arguing with. Of course I’m speculating about his motives, but he seems fake to me.yuekit
- Maybe he thinks that there's enough talk about the idiot in chief. Maybe he's interested in a deeper dialogue about the direction of humanity. Why must ...Morning_star
- ...he criticise trump?Morning_star
- So he’s supposedly this huge supporter of free speech and classic liberalism. You have the most anti-free speech, anti-liberal president maybe in historyyuekit
- in power, and he doesn’t think it’s worth commenting on? The global trend towards authoritarianism isn’t relevant, but a few kids on college campuses are?yuekit
- It’s not like I’m the only one who has noticed this, even Sam Harris fans are calling out his nonsense.yuekit
- https://www.reddit.c…yuekit
- Rubins tweet from 2016:1. I don't support Trump 2. I do support free speech 3. If you use free speech to stifle others use of theirs, 1 day they'll...Morning_star
- ....do same to you.
Seems reasonable to me. Although i'm sure you (Yuekit) can find something petty about it you don't like,Morning_star - Hmmm OK. Not quite clear how a quote from 2016 rebuts the one I posted from 2018 where he says he is leaning towards voting for Trump in the next election.yuekit
- Read the comments in the link I posted. Most people (in Sam Harris' own sub no less) agree with what I'm saying.yuekit
- ...whatever...oey
- I posted a part of the interview with Hughes, this is the full interview: