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http://reason.com/blog/2018/11/2…
lets hope the supreme court votes with reason. the civil forfeiture laws are fucked in most states.My aunt had to struggle to get 100k back from AZ because they thought that much cash had to be related to drugs even though there was no drug offense involved in the activity of arrest.
- What was the $100k in cash for that she was driving around with when she was arrested?monospaced
- DVs?? How can anyone been in favour of asset forfeiture?Gnash
- it was her dude and unrelated to anything but the dept saw the money so tried to tie it to drugs********
- its just funny to see a simplistic fucked up law by all reasons that supreme court laugh at get down voted********
- makes you question the up vote down vote system as collective reasoning right?********
- however mono in that you participate so much why do you not answer basic question?********
- again i cant help but think its a instinct refusal.********
- ive asked plenty of questions directed to your responses and nothing but you comment on this?********
- to me its absurd to state the obvious. but its clear to me you have no sound reasoning to ground you too. just delaying or ignoring in hopes ppl wont see it********
- ive seen many cowards live such the same way and actually succeed for a short time before reality catches up. and it always catches up********
- but you do you and ill do me, and i will continually all out your bullshit wether you acknowledge it or not. Its what i do********
- you are the exact specimen of blind #entrophy********
- hell if every fool knew they were a fool would such things continue. Assume for a moment you might be the fool when you lack ability to contest views********
- I was just asking what the money was for. I didn’t say it wasn’t hers. Seems odd to be driving around with $100k cash and get arrested.monospaced
- I didn’t answer a question because none was asked.monospaced
- ugh...ill be as straight forward as possible with a single question. You seem to think entrophy has nothing to do with politics. How so?********
- And yes not related to asset forfeiture but to the previous post only a page back.********
- What was the $100k for? Why was she arrested in the first place? Kinda weird to be driving around with that kind of cash no?monospaced
- "How so?" is hardly a "straight forward" (sic) question. Entrophy isn't even a real word.monospaced
- In my opinion, if I was a cop and I pulled someone over, arrested them, and then found $100K in cash, I'd assume drugs too.monospaced
- I'm also curious why your aunt was carrying 100k in cash. Seems like an extremely dangerous thing to do regardless of the cops.yuekit
- Was your aunt or her partner convicted of anything?ben_
- eh mono youre one of those guys when confronted cant step up it seems. the hide in a tree until bored defense. whatever, you win im bored.********
- to respect privacy i cant be full on details.she wasnt caught with 100k, her partner was. he had a charge against him not drug related********
- took over a year and lawyers but she got the money back. the whole point is the asset forfeiture is largely like training day********
- it gives far too much power to seize property. as displayed in the article the lawyer defends seizure of cars for traveling over 5 miles per hour.********
- it is so stupid. I find it hard for anyone to make a reasonable argument in favor of such laws and rulings.********
- so why was she driving him around with $100K, and why was she arrested? and if it wasn't her money, why did she get it back?monospaced
- How does someone even go about acquiring 100k in cash? Go to the bank with a suitcase?yuekit
- @yuekit, drug salesmonospaced
- I guess it will remain a mysteryyuekit
- @deathboy, I don't think your example holds water against the article. She was involved with a criminal, and for whatever reason had an enormous amount of $...ben_
- in her possession while with this person. Seems like cause to suspect her as an associate if nothing else. She got her money back though, so all's well?ben_
- And here's an example of why I'd be in favour of it, personally. Imagine your aunt and her partner were taking that 100k to pay someone for their involvement...ben_
- ...in a crime, it would be great if that money never reached it's inteded recipient.ben_
- wow. idiots.********
- there was this http://reason.com/bl…********
- have a little knowledge about what you think u feel about....********
- we know the money was tried to be taken for systematic gains on unreasonable grounds and yet proven otherwise through expensive court preceedings********
- there are plenty of cases that depict the civil forfeiture laws as money grabs for the state. goes back to the mob era with racketeering in proihibition********
- if someone supports a law where a vehicle can be seized fro a traffic violation and need to be bought back than please id like to hear your reasoning********
- even if it s 1200 + traffic violation fee. Is this just mob law? Or is there rational behind it?********
- no different than plundering those on road to burning man********
- 1. Why was she pulled over?
2. Why was she arrested?
3. What was the $100K for?monospaced - nothing to do with topic mono... 1) she wasn't, her dude was. she was not arrested, the 100k was for nothing specific.********
- 100k was a lil quick cash to run because he got in trouble, trouble was unequivocally unrelated to "drugs" as they tried to say to keep it********
- she got the money back but had to fight with lawyers to do it. this is the guilty until innocent shit that goes against our basic liberties when the state is in********
- volved. if you speed, should it be legal to seize your property and have to lawyer up to regain right to property?********
- have a hard time thinking anyone with common sense would be for such rulings so I can only think you agree but will not say so, and instead focus on the bait********
- i'd laid out. i could have left it at the link, but curious to see what the focus is on when introduced with a personal note. the jist of the issue********
- or all the superficial drama of my personal note and handle. hate to say it but superficilaity wins over principles********