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    “Well, I think we have to find out what happened first,” Trump said. “Here we go again with, you know, you’re guilty until proven innocent. I don’t like that. We just went through that with Justice Kavanaugh. And he was innocent all the way.”

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    • Wow that really gives me confidence Kavanaugh was innocent...LOL!yuekit
    • Keep in mind the Turks claim they have already shared this tape of the murder with the Trump administration.yuekit
    • it's mind boggling how trump's playing this.Gnash
    • https://www.youtube.…Gnash
    • erm, not to be that guy, but until some independent review's confirmed the evidence is actually real "Innocent until proven Guilty" still applies, right?Nairn
    • I personally believe that what's accused transpired, but then there's a whole mess of internecine politics at play between Turkey and Saudi ArabiaNairn
    • Well it's not going to be tried in court so you have to look at the available evidence... I don't think anyone looking at it objectively could possibly buy theyuekit
    • Saudi story. For one thing if he left the embassy, presumably it would be trivial for them to produce security cam footage showing this.yuekit
    • Also, if he was accidentally killed during an interrogation then surely they could produce a body right? Or is it Saudi policy to cut people up into tiny...ben_
    • pieces and vanish them when accidents happen?ben_
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    • As I said, I personally believe the accusation - but this is the middle of a three way power play in one of the most contentious regions in the world..Nairn
    • ..and the Turks have a bit of recent history in playing their own games. What proof have YOU that the available CCTV footage is real? None, so..?Nairn
    • @nairn - he was referring to why there is no CCTV footage of him leaving the building I think. He can be seen entering, surely it would be easy to clear it upfadein11
    • by producing that, no?fadein11
    • Both countries are abusers of human rights, historically US Presidents always looked the other way when it comes to that region... shit is still crazy afrobotron3k
    • Sure, and i'm referring to the CCTV footage going IN. Personally I think SA's just too used to being off the leash and has no need or history of subtletyNairn
    • The business community's response will be the most interesting response - SA has fuck all the world wants except money and hydrocarbon reserves...Nairn
    • ..things the rest of the world has in abundance. It needs everyone else a lot more than everyone else needs it.Nairn
    • Believing either Turkey or Saudi Arabia makes no sense. The one thing we know for sure, the guy is dead or captive.zarkonite
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