Net Neutrality

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    It's hard to understand why Trump voters would support repealing net neutrality in the first place.

    Let's look at who the big ISPs are...

    1) Comcast - owns NBC and MSNBC
    2) AT&T - owns CNN
    3) Verizon - owns Huffington Post and Yahoo

    These are the same news channels and sites that conservatives are constantly calling "fake news" and think of as the enemy. They will now have the ability to deliver their own sites and services faster than their competitors, and block and censor anything they want.

    Furthermore if censorship happens you can guarantee it will be controversial technologies and content they go after first. Torrents and cryptocurrency but also stuff like the alt right, white nationalism, etc.

    I don't support those groups but I absolutely believe they should have the right to publish...however that right no longer exists once this rule becomes law.

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    • would you fucking stop w/the 'trump supporter' bullshit for a second? This is far beyond just 'trump supporters' but sit w/many whom believe in a 'free market'PonyBoy
    • that's not just a 'Trump supporter' thing... this topic has existed long before the orange fucker stepped into his crazy round room (oval orifice)PonyBoy
    • It's getting dangerous in here to even be 'me' or someone like... I'm expecting to get shredded for caring about a customer driven market... but fuck if...PonyBoy
    • ... I'm not going to step up and speak for a 'free market'-driven internetPonyBoy
    • Any company that wishes to stay in business will not fuck us (the customer)... that makes zero sensePonyBoy
    • FUUUCK :) I hate all these notes. :)
      I meant... I'm GOING to step up and speak for a 'free market'-driven internet... it's not FREE to get online...get over it      PonyBoy
    • Are you drunk posting PonyBoy? It's getting dangerous to be in QBN? haha cmon.yuekit
    • Reread my post, I'm actually trying to see it from their perspective in terms of why this would be a bad thing.yuekit
    • If you have my opinion it is... fuck, man... you been watching the shit I take lately just cuz I can't jump on 'everything republic or trump sucks' bandwagonPonyBoy
    • Like it or not it's the GOP that made his happen...but I don't think it's actually in the interest of the conservative base.yuekit
    • *republicanPonyBoy
    • You watch... my post after yours is going to get eaten alive :) You know what I say is true ( and yeah... a bit drunk regardless) :DPonyBoy
    • But what you said ISN'T BAD. Thse ISPs aren't going to gouge us... they'd be MORONIC to do so...right?PonyBoy
    • And 'throttling' a few things that require large bandwidth? So-be-it!!!!! It's their bandwidth, content and prerogative. The market will force a 'fair' price...PonyBoy
    • Yes they'd be stupid to straight up gouge people...I don't think that's what's going to happen.yuekit
    • ... else they'll lose lose us.PonyBoy
    • What exactly did they 'make happen' though? What is BAD here? That's what I'm asking. Yes—the path to 'gouge' us open—but do you think they'll take it? No way.PonyBoy
    • It's going to be more subtle than that. Prioritizing their services over their competitors. Blocking new technologies and unpopular content.yuekit
    • Okay, so—if they're not going to gouge then what's to worry about? Throttling specific shit? Alienating mom / pop sites? How?? That means they alienate hosts.PonyBoy
    • You're focusing on the ownership aspect and people should pay for what they use. That's not unreasonable, but it's not as if companies don't pay for bandwidthyuekit
    • I still don't see that happening... it makes zero sense as 'hosts' that host mom / pop sites will be pissed AND ALIENATED. It hurts across the board...PonyBoy
    • today. The real danger is that it gives censorship type power to a handful of ISPs who also happen to own content companies.yuekit
    • ... if any ISP does that. Web Hosts (ag, MT) will lose their shit as they're also 'customers' of the ISPs... again, it makes no sense to fuck anyone w/crazy...PonyBoy
    • They have a vested interest in creating a different kind of internet where their own businesses are the most profitable and successful.yuekit
    • It's also in their interest to kill off things like torrents (since they own movie studios etc) and maybe disruptive new technologies that are seen as a threat.yuekit
    • ...price gouging. You fuck the small guy you fuck the big guy too—it doesn't make sense to alienate your customer regardless of their size ever (intentionally)PonyBoy
    • Well... if there wasn't such a festering amount of illegal activity that occurred w/torrent technology there'd be nothing to worry about there...PonyBoy
    • ... and mind you I get where you're coming from on these items... but you have to put some blame on 'us' for stealing all these years... yes? :)PonyBoy
    • by 'us' I don't necessarily mean yuekit or myself... but merely the rest of you assholes. :)PonyBoy
    • I guess I'm saying I have no problem w/studios attempting to make every last dime they can off their art... ... God knows I try to do the same w/mine. <3PonyBoy
    • Sorry I attacked about calling this a 'trump supporter' thing, yue... :) I understand why in this current climate that'd be first on anyone's mind.PonyBoy
    • Seems like you don't understand how significant the censorship potential is considering recent events.cotton
    • @PonyBoy, not sure if you know, but Fox News is trying to convince their viewers, Trump supporters, that net neutrality laws need to be repealed.monospaced
    • Not sure if you know, but mainstream media, Trump haters, are siding with the idea that net neutrality needs to be maintained. There is a party line, bro.monospaced
    • You might be surprised to find out that Trump supporters often support the decisions Trump's admin makes, including the repeal of Title II net neutrality.monospaced
    • But you won't find any Democrats doing that, not at all.monospaced
    • cotton... it's just 'potential'... and yes I do get it... it's just nobody has published any plans / said they're going to censor a thing. Seems to me that...PonyBoy
    • ...any censorship would be 'stupid' to try and pull off as you're alienating people. If a Corpo is accused of doing that they'd be hurting themselves.PonyBoy
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