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"The slim Senate majority that has proven to be almost unworkable over the past year will get that much tougher. Democrats now will have one less vote that they need to pick off to block President Trump's extremist agenda, while they are that much closer to flipping control of the chamber next November.
This special election suggests that Republicans are realistically facing the possibility of losing control of Congress. For the President, Democrats controlling Capitol Hill and able to launch investigations of the administration and to block any Trump initiatives would be a nightmare."
- context and point? we have seen partisan hardly plays a role with a trump as done deal. this opinion assumes one less will shift partisan paradigm. this oped********
- i am curious what makes you think this quote is important.or significant. i have a hard time seeing any real substance in it.********
- why for dialogue instead of randomly picking copy pasta its important to form an arguement and use external info as support as it fits********
- basic grade level communication. unless you are simply filling a void with poo. are you filling a void with poo?********
- lyou don't see it is significant that a long term red state has been lost to the dems?
and that the pedo Trump endorsed crashed and burned. It's allfadein11 - v.significant to the future of the president. Likely an indicator of how the midterms will go.fadein11
- I am struggling to see something that isn't significant in the quote, is that what you meant?fadein11
- really it seems to me you are filling a void with poo. Funny you bust OMG balls for filling voids but you seem to be no better.********
- no i dont see any significance. if u assume rep control than trump would be getting anything and yet hes having a hard tiem with the establisment********
- lol, whatever. sorry your guy lost fella.fadein11
- which is a whole different issue in itself. democrats launching investigations is null. already they are doign whatever they can with media. i find this opinion********
- simply posturing PR but lacking any substance********
- my guy lost...you clearly dont know where im coming from even though i explicitly state i dont like moore********
- this is my problem. you dont comprehend. and im not sure how to make you understand better.********
- that's good then, not seeing the significance of this defeat seems a little daft though. it's massively significant.fadein11
- I struggle to comprehend someone who uses puts gay and pedo in the same argument or someone who thinks Obama is a socialist. Sorry, that doesn't compute nopefadein11
- or maybe the significance you see is simply team based. easy peazy to judge. i can see how you see that is relevant even though its not********
- fade seriously read the book. everything i was talking about was based on the post. you need to be knowledgable of the post********
- without knowledge of the post and commenting on it is a douche hating the taste of mt dew but never tasted. you do understand your failing there right********
- and this quote is noise. absolute pointless noise. and opinion. its equivalent to me saying wow its hot out today********
- Strange that you nitpick such a simple quote. All it's saying is that every seat in the Senate matters a great deal.yuekit
- Thanks for the tipsfadein11
- strange that you dont. this is a benn type statement being used as agenda. absolutely without point********
- Obamacare repeal failed by a single vote. Tax cuts passed by only two votes and still need to pass final version.yuekit
- is it probable a senate seat may adjust things... yes. in what way? we have absolutely no idea and the quote gives no reason in a direction********
- again its warm out today********
- Judicial nominations often come down to a single vote margin, etc...yuekit
- yuekit all that shows is most elected officials are un prinicpled and focused on reelection and careers. again if u believe the R or D by the name you are********
- stupid. its about real policy, real principles. people focus on the team play and miss the bigger picture. a rep majority and cant repeal obamacare...********
- is because they never cared abotu policy if it doesnt effect them. they just collecting a paycheck********
- I mean you can complain about it but that's a different issue. The reality is you have these two sides, and a very small margin of error, making the loss of oneyuekit
- seat potentially a big deal.yuekit
- and i have a hard time taking supreme court serious after roberts basically said we bend to democracy vs rule of law, and u can vote to fix your shit.********
- but lets look at the signifance of the quote and wether its equivalent to hey its warm out today********
- which is a huge issue i have with people being to identify important information from noise********
- a populace who cant tell news from real news how can we expect a republic to last********
- Actually your comments show a lot more ignorance than the quote does.yuekit
- "if u assume rep control than trump would be getting anything and yet hes having a hard tiem with the establisment"yuekit
- again yuekit you can see it as a "potential" big issue. Like wow this weather might be too hot for crops. But there is no direct evidence. which leads to why********
- It's not the establishment so much as a party that has conservative and moderate wings. Which makes it difficult to agree on things.yuekit
- "is it probable a senate seat may adjust things... yes. in what way? we have absolutely no idea and the quote gives no reason in a direction"yuekit
- Er...we do know which direction. Republicans lost a conservative seat and Democrats gained one.yuekit
- lead. the whole purpose is to try and garner a loss of faith in a party and show superiority in another party.********
- its poor PR being pushed on idiots. No better better than the shit rush might sell or push. the whole point in advertising is being privy to the sell********
- in a slow newsday push and shape whatever you can. a rational alternative might be more beneficial is to push dougs viewpoints********
- you suggest a party leans one way ukit. the whole republin party rebeled against obamacare and won control yet they wont repeal. politicans are not moved by********
- by ideology but by wether they have a job and can pay for their sexual exploits. i think one senate seat will not change the nature of man. that this senator********
- will be moved by his gains and not ideology********
- i admit i know nothing of the man, just the character of the majority of senators ive seen. and i think my opinion based on history********
- is far more objective. and all the while opinion it is grounded far more than a quote out of context which simply is fodder for PR copy pasta of the ignorant********
- but still we are trying to give substance to a quote that had none. ukit if it was longer and wrote about how this could change with reasonable reasons why base********
- d on the guys politics and how his view or record might sway to one direction or another than that would be real substance********
- a point and reason for communication. but as is its just noise, and you are trying to justify it with your added dialogue********
- I'm so tempted to post a link to the whole piece but you would call it fake news. That's why I didn't originally.fadein11
- So from your point of view it doesn't matter how many seats each party controls? Hopefully you can see how silly that sounds.yuekit
- ex. a giant loss to the religious douche who has a history of voting for a or b but new guy has history of voting for C and likely shift X because of C********
- u see the difference in pointless vs point right? news vs copy pasta********
- no i dont care about seats only about how ones votes of course. are you daft.********
- idiots believe labels. i believe actions********
- I think the assumption here is that any Republican from Alabama would have been a reliable conservative vote.yuekit
- post the whole link but do with your reason why its important fade. ill call it fake news if it fits the criteria. so far the quote is pointless by itself********
- i dont get your assumption ukit... again im non partisan. i dont equate any values with a party. their is no party of value********
- or as tocque said “There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.”********
- I can agree with that quotefadein11
- lol context??? the context is the entire Alabama senate race that concluded last night. If you missed the news the last few weeks that's on you.monospaced
- Significant because despite having support from the president and evangelical racists, a pedophile right wing nut lost to a dem.monospaced
- That's a big deal since I'm 25 years they've always voted conservative republican.monospaced
- Mic dropfadein11
- i came back for the link fade. mono a terrible candidate lost to a "democrat" context being who is this guy. his view. his policy********
- i dont know what he stands for and my guess is neither do you, but what you value is the team dynamic, i value policy. why id liek to see more of the article********
- if there is more substance to substantiate the quote on the guys policy which will make it harder against the aligned GOPs views and what not.********
- what I know or value has absolutely nothing to do with it ... I'm talking about reality, not these assumptions and musings you're on aboutmonospaced
- Moore's views about civil rights and other conservative hotbed topics are a major issue for people, and were enough to give him the loss.monospaced
- Moore's policy is too bible-based, which is an issue. This is significant, as the majority of Alabama voters didn't align with that for the first time in yearsmonospaced
- It would take you all of about 5 minutes to look up Jones and read his policy, like any sane person, before making the kinds of demands you aremonospaced
- haha my demands. asking for a senators views that might drastically change congress. u didnt chime in. probably because you dont know.********
- you seem to know why moore lost. which media likes to tell. but what they dont tell is who the victor is. did you vote against a loser without knowing who********
- your winner will be. it is perverse to think your vote is not for you you want but who you dont. moore politics are terrible ill give you that, but more credit********
- media to point them out. And i can try to look up dougies views, but such a stronger supporter lie you i thoguth u'd know and thats why i asked. why i asked for********
- link to see if there is any rational merit to the claims in the quote. what i see with him is principle less mirror of any popular opinion that gets him a paych********
- eck. is it better for a particular team who knows, depends on popularity in the moment from my view. you see how context is important right?********
- and u lost me on what u know or value has 0 to do with it when talking about reality.... that is nutter talk********
- if you see it fade just bump the source. id lirk to see where you are coming from on such things********
- or wait google... oh hey its cnn http://www.cnn.com/2…********
- and instead of a piece about the winner its focused on doom and gloom with no objective reasoning towards trump and gop... partisan biased prop********
- i see why you would think its fake news... but really its just an opinion piece by a political analyst at news agency that has NO reason for slander********
- like bill oreilly had NO reason to sling mud at any D upset...********
- can i pick up the mic and re drop it?********
- you can't, because you don't deserve to, since you're arguing at this point without any logic or comprehensionmonospaced
- u can say it but there is no evidence of such a thing. reality is a funny thing in testing fantasy like that********
- the article is defined as opinion. the whole base of me calling this out as not news is in fact an opinion piece. no logic. your cute as a parrot********
- context and point? we have seen partisan hardly plays a role with a trump as done deal. this opinion assumes one less will shift partisan paradigm. this oped