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- CygnusZero46
hahaha trump is fucking nuts. he literally exists in some shitty twilight zone episode. said this morning he is everyones favorite president. jesus the narcissism on this guy is like wayyyy beyond normal narcissists. he actually thinks he is beloved. i dont think he just says it, he legit believes his own lies. he is a sick individual.
- lol, guess he's ignoring the millions of people who protested against him, worldwidemonospaced
- The first move of any despot and fascist is to discredit the press.kona
- Yet, if "nobody cares about the mainstream media," why does the Cheeto spend so much time attacking and discrediting it?kona
- Only his 36% approvers believe his nonsense and that's all he cares aboutkona
- Trump pushes crazy website promoting satanic cults and conspiracy theoriesutopian
- 100% of the 36% love him.dorf
- guess who... “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.”IRNlun6
- https://www.washingt…IRNlun6
- pundits and talking heads claiming it's somehow the first move of despots and fascist are fucking morons.IRNlun6
- sorry IRN, but what exactly is not to be believed?monospaced
- The media, CNN et al... it’s not outrageous for anyone to say news can be fake. This isn’t any different to whomever is an American president.IRNlun6
- people have to be in complete denial that CNN hasn’t been biased to or at times even slanderous towards the president.IRNlun6
- it would be the ultimate contradiction for a sitting president to NOT be allowed to speak freely of the press, and a hostile one at that...IRNlun6
- no ... what EXACTLY are you saying is fake? You're still generalizing.monospaced
- the claim is that Trump is not, in fact, loved to the point he thinks ... is that fake?monospaced
- it's not a disputable fact that Trump is delusional about his levels of support ... he really is lying to himself and believing it ... that's not fake newsmonospaced
- if anyone should believe CNN is giving an accurate assessment of support for Trump, then yes, they are relying on fake news.IRNlun6
- put down the crackpipe IRNlun6Ramanisky2
- lol IRN, are you saying YOU think even the majority of citizens likes trump? Why?monospaced
- Typical Trump supporter....detache... from reality, intellectually dishonestyuekit
- If you cared about truth and accuracy you would support Trump, end of story.yuekit
- would *not support Trumpyuekit
- CNN perhaps is guilty of being sensationalistic, Trump on the other hand spews blatant lies on a daily basis.yuekit
- Trump supports news like Fox, Breitbart and Infowars that is 100x worse than CNNyuekit
- Please don't pretend you have a single leg to stand on here...fucking laughableyuekit
- Non so far has disagreed with me on CNN being partisan/biased/sens... Trump is more popular than CNN would like you to believe.IRNlun6
- FFS you should know about salesmanship. Saying "I'm popular, but you know, not that popular" doesn't work as well.IRNlun6
- You are a massive hypocrite or just lack any kind of critical thinking if you whine about bias and accuracy while supporting Trump.yuekit
- Ah but when Trump does it it's "salesmanship" lol...can you not see what a joke you sound like?yuekit
- What the latest horse shit Russia story? Getting close, any day now... Nothing the left claims will happen has panned out, yet you still believe.IRNlun6
- We should be well on our way to a destroyed economy, WW3, Russia and the KKK taking over, gays outlawed, Muslims rounded up... what happened?IRNlun6
- Well now you are deflecting, exaggerating and trying to change the subject. Typical dishonest Trump supporter.yuekit
- Now answer the question...do you really believe Trump over the media? You think the guy who started his political career claiming Obama was an African illegalyuekit
- immigrant and just a few days ago said it wasn't him on the pussy grabbing tape is more trustworthy than the NY Times, WA Post and CNN?yuekit
- Trump says he's the most popular President... STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!IRNlun6
- None of those media outlets BTW, predicted any of the ridiculous things you claimed above. But it is pretty clear that without the checks of the Constitutionyuekit
- and the courts, things would be a lot worse. Certainly people like yourself, who believe everything Trump says no matter how idiotic, would not be the ones toyuekit
- hold him in check.yuekit
- Not one of those outlets says Russia, supremacists, racist, islamophobic hordes of red-hat wearing nazis? Not one?IRNlun6
- But hey, you're the one preaching about accuracy and presuming what people like myself believe.IRNlun6
- I mean...they report on the Russia investigation which is a real thing. Are they not supposed to report on it?yuekit
- Did you miss the fact that Trump's campaign manager got indicted just last month? Or that his former National Security Advisor just cut a deal with the feds?yuekit
- But no, none of these organizations came to any sweeping conclusion about what happened. That is something you made up.yuekit
- Now once again, do you think Trump tells the truth or not? Should be pretty simple to answer, no? :)yuekit
- Even I've been accused of spreading Russian propaganda here, but right, no sweeping conclusions. Way more important that Trump be truthful about his popularity.IRNlun6
- We were talking about the media such as NY Times or CNN reaching sweeping conclusions. You seem to have a hard time focusing and staying on topic.yuekit
- And of course Trump doesn't just lie about his popularity but about an endless number of things on an almost daily basis.yuekit
- But we're meant to believe that you and other Trump supporters care about accuracy...sorry but it's a complete joke.yuekit
- It's amazing how quickly the Trump supporter worldview collapses when you just ask a few basic questions.yuekit
- Who's changing topic? CNN, distorts news, people overseas get a distorted perspective. I provided examples. Trump exaggerates his popularity speaking about CNN.IRNlun6
- You think Trump lies everyday.IRNlun6
- Er...yes Trump lies constantly. This is news to you?yuekit
- Just yesterday Trump suggested Fox News would be a better representative of America overseas than CNN International. That's laughable.yuekit
- Also yesterday White House said it doesn't matter if the anti-Muslim video he retweeted from a neo-fascist group is real or not (it was fake).yuekit
- The day before that it was reported that Trump questions whether the Access Hollywood tape, which features his own voice, is real.yuekit
- Those are just three examples...I could list hundreds if I wanted. So stop pretending you care about truth and accuracy.yuekit
- According to a Harvard study, Fox news is the least biased channel. 2 of the 3 videos where very real, 1 a mistake. Comments about AH tape where from 'sources'.IRNlun6
- truth and accuracy is not so black and whiteIRNlun6
- Especially with postmodernism being so prevalent today.IRNlun6
- haha are you serious? Post modernism is an artistic and philosophical movement.yuekit
- Just because post-modernism exists doesn't mean truth suddenly becomes meaningless and you can claim whatever you want is true.yuekit
- Saying truth doesn't matter is a dangerous road to go down, and it's also in direct contradiction with your supposed concern about the media.yuekit
- By the way, here's a much longer list of Trump's lies. Over 150 times he lied about something.
http://www.politifac…yuekit - Or this link rather
http://www.politifac…yuekit - Can you excuse and justify all of these? Is it all post modernism and salesmanship? lolyuekit
- If you are honest I think you'd have to admit Trump is a pretty constant and shameless liar even by the standards of politicians.yuekit
- One line statements extracted from conversations completely strips any nuance or speaking style. An obsession with what is said rather than what is meant.IRNlun6
- Trump is a showman, and as such makes exaggerated claims. That changes the meaning and motivation of those statements.IRNlun6
- Anyway, this conversation is getting in the weeds now. Until the next thread...IRNlun6
- "Obama was born in Kenya" or "China made up global warming" aren't exaggerations, they are just straight up lies.yuekit
- Anyway I didn't mean to go on endlessly. I'm just genuinely curious how Trump followers explain this massive contradiction of criticizing the media whileyuekit
- supporting a much bigger liar in the form of Trump. Wondered if there was any rational justification there...turns out the answer is no apparently.yuekit
- USA is has fallen so right that bland, boring centrist CNN is considered far left.inteliboy