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So this story has right wing fanatics in a party-like-it's-1999 frenzy tonight. It was teased cryptically by Hannity all week, and was his lead story.
FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
http://thehill.com/policy/nation…--
Here's what I find so amusing. The article presents nothing except accusations. No proof AT ALL. Yet the hive mind of r/the_donald on Reddit and sites like GodlikeProductions have concluded 1,000% that it is proof of criminality by Obama and Clinton, and that it's proof of an FBI coverup by Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, Robert Mueller, and even Jeff Sessions. Hannity, constantly mocking the Trump / Russia investigation, was constantly saying "you want proof of Russian collision? Now you've got it." He was constantly, as he's done before, insinuating that Clinton was solely responsible for the uranium deal's approval. Also saying Trump has been investigated for 11 months and no proof of Russian collusion or involvement has been found (basically saying the investigation is a failure, and basically he's neglecting to realize the investigation is underway, therefore little evidence should even be coming out at all.)You've got to look in awe at how this all works, how partisan and cult-like things have gotten. These right-wing types have all the proof in the world that Trump is innocent of any charge made against him (when they have zero proof of anything) yet when an article offering no proof about Clinton et al, their minds are made up instantly: they're all guilty.
What a day and age we're living in.
- So far President Trump has been right, proof (so far) NK has stayed quiet. ISIS being brutalized, most of all consumer confidence is at all time high and cont.robotron3k
- Again, I was out of the country before elections so I didn't vote in Nov, but I see his appeal & people don't want to accept he's incredibly persuasive.robotron3k
- ^ eh? that has nothing to do with mg33's postinteliboy
- just more mental gymnasticsRamanisky2
- Latest Russia talking points, to be used immediately: I was "out of the country" during the election but I "see his appeal." :/yuekit
- Original accusation was back in 2015. This was a confirmation of those accusations. These are pretty detailed accusations.IRNlun6
- 10 months in and plenty of leaks later, we still have no idea if/how/why Russia had any involvement with Trump. The latest was an alleged 100k ad buy in FB...IRNlun6
- tldr: its fake newsCygnusZero4
- The only evidence regarding Trump/Russia so to speak is the existence of an investigation, but thats just faith in power. Not any actionable, verifiable info.IRNlun6
- What about the fact that Trump's campaign manager took tens of millions of payments from politicians connected to Putin?yuekit
- Or this?
http://www.businessi…yuekit - I realize you might not have seen that if you get your news from right wing pro Trump sites :)yuekit
- I'm not saying this proves Trump conspired with Russia himself, but there is definitely something weird going on there.yuekit
- It's funny how somehow the right will use this to vindicate Trump, while an investigation continues, and while he's stillmg33
- a useless, vindictive, petulant asshole who is destroying this country 10x over compared to anything Obama did in his presidency.mg33
- On the idea that both parties colluded with Russia, and whether or not Russia is an enemy....********
- It could have all been prevented if 1. Does not build illegal server in bathroom and 2. Do not give Uranium away to Russia.********
- To this day, Manafort has not been charged with any crime for working with the deposed Ukrainian president.IRNlun6
- This bribery accusation is very specific. If there really is FBI and Justice department verification on this...IRNlun6
- ... that's far more damaging than 10 months of Mueller investigation leading nowhere.IRNlun6
- Trump is very polarizing. I don't expect many to ever like him. Those that don't may be very loud, but in no way indicative of the state of the country.IRNlun6
- Well nor has anyone been charged with anything for bribery...so by your logic nothing happened there either :/yuekit
- Hence, my use of the word "if". Still needs to be proven true, unlike running with the Trump/Russia collusion so many are certain happened with zero proof.IRNlun6