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- monoboy1
If the US attack NK first, it'll simply prove their point and justify everything they can throw. Nobody wins.
Putin is right, sanctions won't help and conflict would be catastrophic. The entire country has been on a war footing and under state propaganda since the 50s.
Weather you like it or not, NKs nuclear programme puts them in a different league now. You have to give them a seat at the table.
Sabre rattling will only exacerbate it.
Trade with them. Give the people prosperity and the regime will eat itself within two decades.
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- trade with them? they have nothing to offer and have zero purchasing power.hotroddy
- you're making it sound like it's our fault that they are poor and miserable rather than communism's fault.hotroddy
- but it is dude hotroddy. who killed 20% of the population bombing that country beyond of what was necessary to win a war?uan
- you give prosperity by opening market forces and allowing people to manifest their own wealth.hotroddy
- It's estimated they export $4bn worth of minerals, food and products to China and Russia every year.monoboy
- true, I have nothing to say against this. but you must be clear about who is responsible for the fear created in NK that allowed a dictatorship to last so long.uan
- That what I meant by giving people prosperity. You've jumped to the wrong conclusion in your haste to defend free-market capitalism.monoboy
- Jong-Un has actually been reforming the economy within past decade.yuekit
- https://www.theguard…yuekit
- Ironically, 'free states' use purchasing power to suppress communist or socialist states causing a vicious cycle.monoboy
- Or they shift manufacturing jobs to totalitarian regimes for the cheap labour.monoboy
- That at least would open the door to trade and eventually individual prosperity and therefore overthrow the regime. You can do anything with dollars.monoboy
- It's pretty clear that the conflict is purely the result of the fact that we are already in conflict with them.yuekit
- kill them with kindness, ie. mcdonalds and coke.Beeswax
- great so lets reward their behavior with buying their state owned natural resources so the state has more resources to invest in defense.hotroddy
- Obviously not. But Dumpf did sell billions of weapons to a country he accused of masterminding 9/11 weeks ago.monoboy
- There'll be NK cash in US banks too I bet. Complicity and corruption everywhere.monoboy
- I don't disagree w u that Saudi Oil funds our terrorists. But what good is us to do the same w NK?hotroddy
- As I've just explained. Prosperity will lead to the regime collapsing internally. It's already happening in China.monoboy
- as in 'shift manufacturing jobs to totalitarian regimes for the cheap labour'?hotroddy
- china has a grip on their citizens so tight that they'll never collapse.hotroddy
- Everything you own was probably made in China, by companies exploiting cheap labour under a totalitarian regime.monoboy
- Their burgeoning middle class are chipping away at the party so they've had to compromise heavily to maintain a grip on power.monoboy
- It makes for an interesting balance of power. Don't forget that the Chinese bailed the US out in 2008 buy buying billions of Treasury debts and still do.monoboy
- America pays China $450 billion a year in interest payments alone and If they stop leading you money, you're fucked.monoboy
- A run against the dollar or renminbi and the dumping of bonds will cause WWIII.monoboy
- All because some greedy cunts in banks tried to shaft each other by offering bad loans to poor people then tried to hide it.monoboy
- Yet half the population of the US (and the UK) have been duped into thinking it's all the fault of 'globalisation' and immigrants.monoboy
- Always follow the money™monoboy