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^ This is a good analysis of what's happening with Qatar...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/n…
A convergence of factors appears to have shifted the geopolitical landscape in the Persian Gulf. The Trump administration signaled that it intends to follow a set of regional policies that are aligned far closer to those of Abu Dhabi and Riyadh than Doha.
Whereas the Obama administration sought to enhance U.S. engagement with the GCC as a bloc, Trump focused instead on Saudi Arabia and the UAE as the twin pillars of its regional approach. Strong bonds reportedly have formed between Trump’s adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner and Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia as well as Yusuf al-Otaiba, the influential UAE ambassador in Washington.
Key principals within the Trump administration, such as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and CIA Director Mike Pompeo, hold views on Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood that are virtually indistinguishable from those in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE are emerging as the two spearheads around which U.S. regional policies are realigning, including a set of hawkish defense and security interests; the joint raid conducted by U.S. and UAE Special Forces in Yemen in January may well be only the first of numerous joint initiatives across regional conflict zones in the months and years ahead.
So Trump loves Saudi Arabia. The same country that is the actual #1 sponsor of terrorism and helped fund and arm ISIS. They may even be funding some of the Jihadists launching attacks in Europe.
But Trump is supposedly tough on terrorism because he says crazy things and sends out tweets....cognitive dissonance.
- Not really. Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has completed changed Saudi Arabia as a country. Israel is also an unerlying partner in all this.IRNlun6
- We'll see how this plays out, but this is likely a step toward long term peace in the Middle East. They will decide what their future looks like, not us.IRNlun6
- 'underlying'IRNlun6
- Al Jazzera and it's Western media allies will be heavily against this.IRNlun6
- I don't think there is really any basis for what you're saying. Saudi Arabia is still funding radical Islam and under the new prince they have actually launchedreanimate
- military campaigns in the region. That's bringing peace?reanimate
- ISIS and Islamic Terrorism is an enemy of Saudi Arabia. This is a coalition of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt.IRNlun6
- Countries that have taken dramatic steps to stopping terror in the region.IRNlun6
- IRNlun6 be honest would you even be trying to make this argument if Trump hadn't befriended them?yuekit
- Of course Saudi Arabia supports Islamic terrorism. For one thing there are tens of thousands of madrassas in countries around the world preaching radical Islamyuekit
- that are funded by them. The Taliban for instance were educated in these schools.yuekit
- They also fund and arm Jihadists in Syria including ISIS (according to U.S. government and the Prime Minister of Iraq).yuekit
- It's quite possible that some of these people made their way back to Europe and were the ones launching attacks.yuekit
- And I didn't even mention 9/11...yuekit
- this is a likely step towards an american taxpayer subsidized war with iran.dorf
- @yuekit my opinions on SA began to change prior to the election. Their 2030 plan, The Crown Princes reforms, admitting to having mislead us in the past..IRNlun6
- http://www.politico.…IRNlun6
- I'm grateful Trump didn't turn out to fuck it up as bad as so many thought, and actually ended up supporting our allies in the region. Which went over very wellIRNlun6
- People still dismiss the significance of Trump, of all people, to speak along side a coalition of Arab countries to denounce Islamic terrorism.IRNlun6
- ^ if a liar says he won't lie anymore. would you believe that person?dorf
- I guess it wasn't going to fly for them to pretend they had nothing to do with terrorism anymore.yuekit
- But that article makes it sound like something that happened in the distant past. Whereas just last year, in one of the Wikileaks emails, you had Hillaryyuekit
- Clinton talking privately about how the Saudis were funding ISIS.yuekit
- Also this article was just published today:
https://www.wsj.com/…yuekit - Putting aside the corruption aspect, why do you think they are so afraid of 9/11 being looked it?yuekit
- Their actions as of late looks like they're serious about reforms. Specifically calling out financing for the Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban, ISIS, and Hamas.IRNlun6
- http://www.middleeas…IRNlun6
- Here's the reality of life in "reformed" Saudi Arabia:yuekit
- https://www.usnews.c…yuekit
- https://www.amnesty.…yuekit
- According to them the 21 year old activist they are planning to crucify (literally, as in behead and nail to a cross) is a "terrorist"yuekit
- So I'd be pretty suspicious when they say they are fighting terrorism. More likely is the same as with Yemen, trying to project influence across the region.yuekit