FUCK ADOBE!
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- PonyBoy4
I will grant you this (whiny bitches that you are)... There really isn't a 'hobby' solution for Adobe's professional digital tools like there is for more tangible professional crafts such as... woodworking (for example).
Here in the States you can wander over to a Goodwill (or a pawn shop etc) and find last years Makita table saw for 1/3 the price this year's model... yet still comparable. Chisels, hammers... all that shit you can buy used / refurbished (like new but much cheaper).
Same thing w/computers... refurbished yet like new in comparison to the 'latest' model. (can't remember the last time I bought a 'new' laptop from Apple)
But when it comes to software there is no 'refurbished' option and 'last year's' model may not even work w/your OS.
It sucks... but it kind of 'is what it is'. I guess If you're not willing to pay premium prices for premium hobbies... find another hobby. <3
All that being said— buying used shit isn't exactly 'cheap'— it's just cheapER. Painting and drawing-like hobbies also comes to mind. If you don't mind your brush not flowing smoothly then by all means by cheap brushes and garbage paint / canvas etc... same thing goes for pastels / chalk / pen & ink etc... you get what you pay for... creative hobbies aren't cheap... ever. (FFS Look how much money you clowns dump into your cameras / lenses... I read the photography thread!! You are picking expensive hobbies!)
You could always go back to being a student or a teacher and snaking that discount (which most students still whine about because today's college twat can barely fathom the idea of having a job while going to school)...
But in all seriousness...
STOP FUCKING WHINING!!! There is always 'Photoshop Elements'.
- LOL!oey
- lol Makita table sawmoldero
- Makita, the Porsche of woodworking tools... the Adobe of table saws!!PonyBoy
- (I obviously have no fcking clue what I'm talking about when it comes to working your wood but i think my point is about as obvious as an awl through your eye)PonyBoy
- Affinity offers very good ps and ai alternatives for around $40 a pop. They are called photo and designerfourth
- there certainly ARE hobby-level software packages available at a fraction of the cost (not nec. adobe), made exactly for hobbyists' needsmonospaced
- +1 (I'm agreeing with you, btw)monospaced
- but you kind of get what you pay for w/those 'hobby-level' tools... Adobe has it's frustrating moments but I've yet to see anything compare (corel or the like)PonyBoy
- Makita sucks, I think they bought dewalt and thats why dewalt sucks now toomoldero
- Way to miss the point entirely - in days gone by you COULD buy old software, on disc. Fucking hell.detritus
- If you want to draw on your computer, you can use any cheap ass hobby-level drawing app you want, and buy it outright. Doesn't need to be Adobe.monospaced
- Same goes for any other software digital tool. Get anything you want, but don't whine about software you can't afford and honestly, have no need for at all.monospaced
- I think there is no harm in pirating it for private use. Adobe even benefits from it because it keeps their marketshare up.mekk
- If you once turn a hobby into profession then you are already into Adobe software and some agency buys it for you.mekk