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Trump has been very openly against invading the middle east in general, against going in to Syria, and generally for minding your own business - for years. People keep posting his tweets regarding this and shouting hypocrite? He's been saying this long before he was campaigning to become president.
Do you think it's logical that someone's moral compass would flip 180 degrees as soon as they become president? Is that logical to you?
What is far more reasonable to assume, and we can take Obama as another perfect example, is that the president doesn't really call the shots.
So the question is, who IS calling the shots? And who voted for them?
- yeah sure. whatever set, if the new WW breaks out because of this shit i'm going to move into your flat.********
- I'd like to see you try, but back to the point 'whatever' ? Whatever what? What is your logical response to my question... ?********
- So why do you have such a problem with Obama then? This post is a 180 degree flip I'm afraid.fadein11
- I have a problem with America. My problem regarding Obama was the difference in media coverage and people's support.********
- You failing to understand my points may constitute a flip in your mind, but the reality is another story, I'm afraid.********
- If you listened closely to Obama during the campaign he was against Iraq, not against U.S. interventionism in general.yuekit
- Trump OTOH strikes me as someone who is a loose cannon, just reacts based on who he talked to last. He's flipped on any number of positions, not just this one.yuekit
- I'm talking more generally. Obama promised change, right? Nothing changed, just more of the same.********
- He was originally in favor of Iraq war, recorded a video in favor of overthrowing Gaddafi in Libya...you can't say that he was a real anti-war candidate.yuekit
- Why are you being so specific though yuekit? If he's flipped on multiple positions, that backs up my suggestion even more, not less.********
- If it's not the president it is the swamp, which trump promised and failed miserably at draining.monospaced
- *to drainmonospaced
- Well he's flipped back and forth...from being hawkish to isolationist and back again. I don't think it necessarily shows he's being manipulated, just that he'syuekit
- an opportunist who will do whatever it takes to market himself and gain power and influence.yuekit
- Look at the fake university he created to rip off his own supporters. The guy has no moral compass.yuekit
- ... but what 'he' has done now is EXACTLY the US narrative. It's Iraq and Libya all over again.********
- I agree there's a lot of continuity there. And yes Trump is probably being heavily influenced by military people who have a lot more knowledge and experienceyuekit
- than he does. If that's what you meant then I agree. I'm just saying he's never really had the steadfast anti-interventionist views that some people in theyuekit
- alternative press like to attribute to him.yuekit
- Maybe if Trump hadn't made such outrageous claims around his intelligence, knowledge of military complexity, and ability to fix everything ...monospaced
- Fair enough, yuekit********
- yeah sure. whatever set, if the new WW breaks out because of this shit i'm going to move into your flat.