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  • lowimpakt1

    the gibraltar issue was discussed before the vote

    • I think it was understood that the petulant spanish 'government' would use it as an opportunity to throw sand in the gears, but this is the EU giving them quartdetritus
    • ..quarter. This is essentially the EU sanctioning obstinance from outside the realm of the argument.detritus
    • I still remember 1992, before the EU, at school in Gibraltar. Whatever happens won't be the end of the Earth, so fuck the EU. "Die, EU, Die".detritus
    • Picardo knew what the Spanish would do - they're predictable if nothing else. rouble is language makes some think there is a "table" to actually argue.detritus
    • There isn't. Gibraltar is British and always will be until the Gibraltarians decide otherwise. Anything else is a shit on the conceits of the EU and UN'sdetritus
    • ..raison d'etre.detritus
    • the UK should just class Gibraltar as part of the mainland, as the French and Dutch quietly do and be done with it.detritus
    • ...Falklands too.detritus
    • The place is an interesting, weird colonial bubble. I love the monkeys, bulldogs and pubs. Talking to a Brit in Spanish kills me, who'd a thunk it.robotron3k
    • the situation for gibraltarians is particularly shaky because they voted to remain because they voted 95.9% to remain in the EU with 84% turnoutlowimpakt
    • Why's that in any way shaky for them?
      If anything, one would expect the EU to then capitalise on that fact, not let the Spanish fuck everything up.
      detritus
    • I can guarantee you that the vast bulk of Gibraltarians distrust and dislike the Spanish more than they do love the EU. They're more British than most Brits.detritus
    • A lot of people over here don't appreciate that.detritus
    • "*also,* they're more British than the Brits".
      I didn't mean to imply that a dislike and distrust of the Spanish is an inate fucntion of being British.
      detritus
    • That comes from having franco close a border for 15 years, trapping a population of thirty thousand people on a very small isthmus.detritus
    • That comes from, to this today, the Guardia Civil randomly fucking the supposedly free border over, causing 3-8 EIGHT) hour queues to cross the frontier.detritus
    • That comes from constant stupid Spanish distractionary politicking, against an entity that provides jobs and economic focus to Spain, in an impoverished partdetritus
    • I can tell you I almost had a tear in my eye when Gib was the first to vote in Brexit, with that turnout and that stupid-high percentage. It's all a mess.detritus
    • And i can tell you that I love Spain and [most] Spanish people. But their Government is a piece of shit, and now soo too, apparently, the EU. Fuck 'em.detritus
    • ^
      empowered by cider
      detritus
    • I'm sure it will be become a huge sideshow distracting from the real issues at hand.fadein11
    • *fist bumps self*
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      *fists self*
      detritus
    • Well, they've made it so.detritus
    • shaky because gibraltar will have a choice to make. they were not mentioned in Article 50 letter & voted against brexit. There has been a process oflowimpakt
    • decolonization & self determination for a while. They certainly don't trust Spain but in last census most identified as Gibraltarian rather than British/Spanishlowimpakt
    • good ole no plan Brexit - this is the tip of the icebergfadein11
    • Yes, and Gibraltarians identify as British, Low. Sure, there has been a massive administartive fuck up here somewhere, but it means nowt. Gibraltar is British.detritus
    • It cannot be bargained for, legally, juristictionally, morally or otherwise.
      it is British. That is that. Therefore all else is a fuckwit complication.
      detritus
    • As I say, it should probably just become another county. We could launch Europe's rockets from there, like the French do in their colony.detritus
    • to be fair. it's is symbolically british for now. it wasn't before and plausible it won't be in future. If they think the deal the tories strike is shite & notlowimpakt
    • in their interests I can see them working out their options. Suffice to say. it's a right mouldy cock and balls for now.lowimpakt
    • i just hope they don't get fucked over and their wishes are respected and interests not compromised.lowimpakt
    • My friend, it has been 'symbolically British' for all relevant time. But yes, a clusterfuck otherwise.detritus
    • Maybe they should have a referendum?monoboy
    • Aye, they should check every two years, just to make sure.detritus
    • Gibraltar ESPAÑOL!!!Miesfan
    • No, it isn't, and you know that.
      I love you otherwise, Miesfan.
      x
      Cunt.
      detritus
    • ;-)Miesfan

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