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    I know you guys are pissed because it's politically incorrect to have talks with another country before getting elected BUT I really like that finally US and Russia is not fighting for over a territory somewhere that does not belong to them.
    I'd prefer this, compared to Obama's proxy war in Syria that led to massive death and destruction.

    Of course there's Israel who doesn't like peace between countries or cultures and I'm sure they have a finger in this FBI Investigation.

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    • Syria IS a proxy war between Russia and the US at this point, has been for a while. Ukraine is basically the West vs Russia proxy war.BuddhaHat
    • Where's the evidence that Obama or the U.S. is responsible for the civil war in Syria?yuekit
    • Russian activity in Syria has only reduced since the end of December, and they still have troops there. Putin declared 'mission semi-accomplished'BuddhaHat
    • Obviously U.S. did interfere once the conflict started, along with dozens of other countries. But it started with people rising up against their government.yuekit
    • This love of US "bringing democracy" is the new(old) name for invasion and replacing puppets. In this sense Obama is not different than Bush with the end resultBeeswax
    • Obama poured gasoline over a spark. Please don't defend a politician, millions are suffered here.Beeswax
    • I agree about Syria, it really made me dislike O's agenda. But Russia? You would prefer a puppet and election manipulation to...?formed
    • I can't see anything worse for America than a conclusion that Russia determined our President. I don't know how we'd recover from it.formed
    • There was no defence of O's agenda from me, he was a very hawkish Democratic president. The US still has troops there though, and are sending more.BuddhaHat
    • https://www.nytimes.…BuddhaHat
    • @Beeswax I'm just asking where is the evidence that the U.S. is driving force behind the conflict. They supported rebels but how much?yuekit
    • AFAIK the U.S. is just one of literally dozens of countries that interfered, including Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey of course.yuekit
    • the us has been actively trying to take out assad for decades.Gnash
    • True which is why they supported rebels, but I don't think they created the civil war or were the main force behind it.yuekit
    • I have no evidence of this but I still find it implausible that the Arab Spring was some organic movement. Way to organized and to many countries involved.IRNlun6
    • I doubt the people of Ukraine share your enthusiasm.allthethings
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