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I've been getting into discussions with a few people who conflate Trump's "immigration ban" with a need to stop illegal immigration. Seen a few people post a cheap meme showing a statement made by Bill Clinton about controlling illegal immigration, with words also used by Trump, as a defense of what Trump did on Friday. A "Clinton did it too!" approach.
OK... let's break this down for a second. Illegal immigration is not the same thing as arriving in this country with a green card, a visa, or as part of a refugee resettlement program with a path to legal citizenship. Right? So how can anyone conflate an actual need to stop illegal immigration with just shutting people from specific countries out of LEGAL entry via the options listed above?
Is it not crazy to anyone else that people confuse the two? I simply cannot see how Trump's actions can be misconstrued as an attempt to stop illegal immigration.
- Ooops, I'm a dumbass, see my comments attached to my own post above, LOL. *slap*BuddhaHat
- don't forget, Trump is only doing this for 90 days ... what the FUCK is that about? So, we're gonna stop immigration for 3 months and ... what?monospaced
- I just had this conversation last night, if it could be called a conversation. It was like talking to a brick wall. "... but, but Illegal Immigrants..."kona
- No amount of logic helped him to see the difference. In the end I told him we'd have to agree to disagree and he said "Well you're WRONG" and stormed offkona
- What Trump did shouldn't even have the word "immigration" associated with it, because entering via those means isn't even immigrating.mg33
- Agreed.
But then again I was talking to a guy who was missing a few teeth and carrying a gun on his hip like it's the old west so...kona - Dont waste your time on ppl who have been brainwashed. Conserve your energy for ppl who dont know whats going on.err
- all a waste of time ... avoid at all cost.Ramanisky2
- Good comments, thanks.mg33