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Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
- just one thing: the "Discrediting tactic" what is the base of the trump campaign playbook is exactly what rassa fuels in europe.********
- surprised you guys are DVing an article from the NYTPonyBoy
- I don't think too many people believe Trump is actually a Manchurian candidate for Russia. But the idea that Russia does not have a favorite is hard to buy whenyuekit
- you have stories like this:
http://www.reuters.c…yuekit - Or just watch RT...they clearly favor Trump and spend a lot of time promoting him, for whatever reason.yuekit
- who gives a shit what their 'favorite' is? They can voice their opinion all day long for all I care as long as they're not actually involved in the processPonyBoy
- If there is a prob w/Russia voicing their opinion I suppose Mexico (and the like) should shut the fuck up too?PonyBoy
- What about the Russians hacking Democrats email with the intent to damage them? Doesn't that count as involvement?yuekit
- Article says aimed only at disrupting the election, but they clearly targeted one side.yuekit
- That would be an issue except it's not proven (and no, 17 agencies haven't said russia hacked the dems as HRC said—do some research—all speculation—no proof)PonyBoy
- saying the hack methods “are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts” does not say they're actually responsiblePonyBoy
- Again... if Mexico can have an opinion and even a 'favorite'... why can't Russia?PonyBoy
- (and please PLEASE don't think I'm advocating for Trump here—I'm merely interested in pointing out that the 'left' is just as much full-of-shit as the 'right')PonyBoy
- Well to be fair, Mexico has an opinion largely because of Trump's statements shitting on Mexico :)yuekit
- Rasa is in deep shit because of the us and nato that's why they need a leader in the us who doesn't gives a shit of what's happening in europe or anywhere else.********
- With Russia, I think people are wondering what the motive is. Another weird aspect was the financial ties between Trump's ex campaign manager (now resigned)yuekit
- and corrupt Ukrainian politician he worked for who was basically seen as a puppet of Putin.yuekit
- and how isn't a woman and/or black, dumb enough to laugh weak in diplomacy and easy to discredit.********
- I agree there is plenty to question in regards to Russia's interest. But the fact is every answer given is delivered w/speculation... proving nothing...PonyBoy
- motive is to remove the Nato from eastern europe, so that they can take back some ex ussr coutries. and remove the us from the middle east.********
- ... yet the 'left' speaks clear as day that Russia hacked the dems etc. What sense does it make to blame a superpower for shit like this w/out proof?PonyBoy
- United States covers more than 70 percent of the budget of the NATO. deploys defense systems around eastern europe, has many m. bases around eu.********
- Especially when Russia just revealed 'Satan 2'? Seems like we'd look to have a good relationship w/the USSR rather than accusing them of shit w/no real proof.PonyBoy
- And the most important thing is that the US Germand and France has the biggest voice in the economic sanctions against rassa in g8. what is extended for 6months********
- sht Germand = Germany :D********
- PonyBoy that's a joke right? the reason for that is to show some power. for example Lithuania: they currently prepare for the same type of war what was ukraine.********
- this email hacking is the same type of shit what happened in my country some years ago. people went nuts, nationalist right party won the election.********
- and guess what in the middle of the war in ukraine our "trump" was shaking hands with putin like they are some old time friends.********
- and today the exact same leadership tactics are in place in hungary like in russa. (media, energy, etc. owned by gov oligarchys)********
- wasn't joking, sted—was just...speculating. :) Nothing but speculation (which was my point in sharing the article—it's all speculation / accusation w/out proof)PonyBoy
- just one thing: the "Discrediting tactic" what is the base of the trump campaign playbook is exactly what rassa fuels in europe.