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  • BuddhaHat4

    It's a slightly older article, but relevant to Cygnus' comment above. I don't argue in the slightest that the numbers are looking very good for Hillary Clinton right now, she's very likely to take the White House. As for the success of her proposed legislative agenda, the path forward is a lot less certain.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/01/…
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    Enter REDMAP. The RSLC strategists decided to target as many state legislative chambers as they could in 2010, with an eye to maximizing the number of states where they could have total control of drawing new maps the following year. They spent $30 million — a steal when you consider that’s the cost of some Senate races — in local elections in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina, all with the goal of asserting GOP dominance in purple states. They were aided by the fact that 2010 became an anti-Obama wave election and many discouraged Democrats stayed home. But by the end of Election Night 2010, the GOP had attained several hundred new state legislative seats (hitting a decades-long high point) and captured some two-thirds of state legislative chambers nationwide. They pressed that advantage big-time in 2011, using the most advanced map-making and demographic technology ever to super-glue their gains in place.
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    Email records and depositions show the epic lengths the Republicans went to in 2011 to draw maps with the goal of locking in a decade — at least — of House dominance. In court case after court case — whether in Wisconsin, North Carolina, Florida or Texas — or in other states like Ohio where Freedom of Information Act requests have uncovered revelatory email exchanges between operatives and mapmakers, the story is scary for anyone who cares about participatory democracy. In Florida, a federal judge overturned two districts in 2014, ruling that it seemed to him that there was a shadow redistricting process conducted by GOP masterminds. In Wisconsin, even some Republican lawmakers howled at being forced to sign confidentiality agreements to view the new maps, which were constructed, in part, at a law firm across the street from the state capitol. A judge later rejected the idea that attorney-client privilege would allow the mapmakers to keep details of the process private. In Ohio, emails suggested how operatives made changes to maps after receiving last-minute communications from Speaker Boehner’s political team, and how they dubbed their secret redistricting headquarters “The Bunker.”
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    In order to take control Wasserman told USA Today – he really is the expert on this — Democrats would have to win 30 of the 31 seats where a GOP candidate appears “at risk.” Oh, and not lose any seats of their own. Trump or no Trump, that’s a steep hill.

    • only one problem with your logic is that democrats are technically bush. have fun with wwIII. hope you get drafted.yurimon
    • see you on the other side. lol
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    • lol, as if Trump is a vote for world peacemonospaced
    • he's much more a nationalist than a globalist trying to take over the world.
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    • has he ever talked tough on global takeover like Hillary?
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    • if you listen to speeches. his idea is to clean up the mess in partnership. he doesnt see isis as tool for proxy war.yurimon
    • If the democrats are bush, what does that make the GOP? I'm having a hard time coming up with something, seeing as their scumbaggery is unprecedented.BuddhaHat
    • this is a more grounded approach. I could tell when trump lies. 1 thing is sincere is his goal to help the country. he growing into the roll.yurimon
    • And my post drew no logical conclusions other than the House likely not falling the Democrats' way. What utter garbage are you dribbling, yuri?BuddhaHat
    • @omg, yeah, he pretty much has in relation to how he views the oil in the middle eastmonospaced
    • he thinks it's ours and that we (usa) should have the right to bomb anyone and everyone in order to secure it and sell itmonospaced
    • Sometimes what is good doesn't come in an ideal package but gets the job done. if hes elected watch n see.yurimon
    • if not, 4 years a someone who doesnt display empathy and executive privileged of controlling armed forces and nukes.yurimon
    • he doesnt think that at all. it in your head. plus your crazy bitch radar is malfunctioning. you n moldy. moldy know shes a nut bag but hisyurimon
    • 'his goal to help the country' is not sincere, he doesn't know the meaning of the word. Or 'empathy', or 'trade deficit', or 'sharia', or 'proliferation'.BuddhaHat
    • crazy bitch sadistic tendencies support her dont stick you vote in crazy. trump is an asshole but hes not crazy by any standardyurimon
    • Trump in the past has taken the opposite side of basically every issue including globalizationyuekit
    • watch the midd east conflict expand if H gets in. remember what i said.yurimon
    • as well as praising Hillary as a great leader and good friend of his, and being in favor of immigration reform.yuekit
    • He's not crazy, he's neurotic, grandiosely narcissistic, egotistical, angry, a pathological liar, a racist, a misogynist, volatile, a populist...BuddhaHat
    • There has been a reasonable amount of work put into the analysis: http://www.theatlant…BuddhaHat
    • trump is more of pragmatist not based on ideals. i would rather give him a chance based on what he said.yurimon
    • if he is the rep version of ob, all talk no results. i will eat my hat.yurimon
    • Pragmatist would be proposing realistic things, not that we're going to somehow magically kick out all the immigrants and restore 1950s America.yuekit
    • @mono - "take the oil", but a vote for Hillary is a vote for WWIII
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    • with all the women pushing for WWIII, I wonder how that will changes things in the military. a bunch of dead guys and babies in the chamber.
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    • lol, how is she a vote for wwiii?monospaced
    • also, yuri, he does think that, and he has said it clearly several times on national television and in public speechesmonospaced
    • his plan is clear partner with russia against isis, vs proxy war supporting isis which has spread to 33 countries under the proxy war policy which is a hugeyurimon
    • backfire, and causes deaths outside the war zone. horrible idea thinking they could control funding these groups in hope to contain them in the regionyurimon
    • for a proxy war. terrible mistake. yet simple common sense.yurimon
    • Partner with Russia? How many partners does Russia have right now? Do you think Trump is smarter than an ex-KGB billionaire dictator/president?BuddhaHat
    • we will see how things go. the dictator element is the same with both candidates. if she is elected after her experience you will see internet whitewashingyurimon
    • Trump is more of law enforcement type in my opinion. we will see what his tolerances are on reporters.yurimon

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