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    • lol...too bad for all those people who went out on a limb defending him.
      He was just kidding everyone!      yuekit
    • yep - could name at least 3 derps here who agreed with this ridiculous statement.fadein11
    • you said it yesterday fadein11, simplifying a complex problem for masses to try and understand.IRNlun6
    • most still have no idea how much responsibility the Obama administration has for the rise of ISIS.IRNlun6
    • the funniest part is yesterday all the trump U graduates were like yeahhhh obama started isis... then trump says nahhh i was just kidding. oops! lmfaoCygnusZero4
    • got them all to come aboard a sinking ship, then bails on them lol i mean you cant even make this shit up. is he trying to troll his own supporters??CygnusZero4
    • Islamic State formed during the Iraq War and existed long before Obama became president.yuekit
    • If anyone "created" them (through incompetence) it was the people running the Iraq occupation. Pretty ridiculous to blame it on Obama who opposed the war.yuekit
    • IS emerged after the US pulled out of Iraq, during Obamas administration, with support for Arab allies and US weapons exchanges.IRNlun6
    • Also notice that Trump has at various points suggested that Obama is a foreigner, is Muslim himself, is allied with Muslim terrorists.yuekit
    • Obama has been in power for nearly 8 years, it is not longer just Bush's war.IRNlun6
    • I think it would be more accurate to view this as the latest in that series of remarks rather than some deep statement on foreign policy.yuekit
    • The funny part is people taking him literally by saying "founder" and not seeing the bigger point of the administrations culpability in the rise of ISIS.IRNlun6
    • Yep - ISIS roots go away back before Obama - they just changed their name, like they will again and again... American foreign policy never helps mattersfadein11
    • It was a campaign speech, not a dissertation on the failures that resulted in their rise.IRNlun6
    • It wasnt known as ISIS until the late 2000s, but they sure as shit existed well before then. After Al Qaeda started falling apart, in the early 2000s ya morons.CygnusZero4
    • regardless of the administration but to blame Obama is really fucking stupid.fadein11
    • Someone educated Trump on this fact, I guess last night, and today a tweet that he was just kidding. Is this guy even for real?CygnusZero4
    • If you look into the history, IS was actually a merger between Al Qaeda in Iraq and the remnants of the Saddam Hussein government.yuekit
    • They officially named themselves "Islamic State" in 2006, two years before Obama was elected.yuekit
    • Yep. I guess the point was his actions amde them strong(er) but it's all so retarded - what sort of public statesman behaves like this - he's a fucking moron.fadein11
    • I thought they became known as that a little later, like 2008/9, but they were around way before anyone even heard of Obama.CygnusZero4
    • Last night someone knocked on Trumps door and was like "uhhh, sir, we have some bad news...." LolCygnusZero4
    • yep the name is irrelevant - they grew out of the 2nd Iraq war for sure and other shitstorms that followed but Obama did not create them, decades of US foreignfadein11
    • policy stoked the fire.fadein11
    • Obamas administration has much to blame when their is now evidence that they supportered weapons shipments to overthrow the Assad regime.IRNlun6
    • The IS caliphate would not have the power and wealth without US foreign policy and Arab alliances.IRNlun6
    • That is far more outrageous than hyperbolic language to simplify a complex issue.IRNlun6
    • Without invasion of Iraq they would not have existed...but we didn't need Trump to tell us that.yuekit
    • he wasn't simplifying a complex issue, he was just being sarcasticmonospaced
    • If you think your average Trump supporter is going to seriously analyze the foreign policy details you may be disappointed.yuekit
    • wow - shock horror - US sells weapons to bad people... lol. I thought this was just an accepted fact now. The UK has been doing it for centuries (not saying itsfadein11
    • a good think though obviously).fadein11
    • thing*fadein11
    • It's a fact, certainly not an accepted one. I voted for Obama twice. I am not ok with simply accepting the status quo.IRNlun6
    • I am not ok with simply turning a blind eye to President Obamas actions because he was someone I supported.IRNlun6
    • nope accepted was the wrong choice of words.fadein11
    • just kidding, hahaha - Trumputopian
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