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- yurimon-5
- I agree with this guy EXCEPT that he's ignoring the fact that Trump won't be able to do shit w/ Russia without pissing off everyone in the EU. Then, NATO.********
- Trump has a much better chance in working with Russia than Hillary Clinton.********
- you dont know that. but im sure nuclear tension and possible with smile and proper grammar, punctuation is a better approach. when did you become a neocon nb?yurimon
- n possible war.yurimon
- If Russia invades Ukraine and takes part of their territory, is that peace?qoob
- If Russia invades Ukraine and wins, the war would be over.********
- Its a good question. they did take advantage of its destabilization but the question is how did ukraine destabilize?yurimon
- Fuck, you idiots need to read more books. The Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons a deal that Bill Clinton played a major role in when he was president.********
- The deal was that the rest of the world (including Russia) would never attack Ukraine. Yes, even Russia agreed to this.********
- Then about a decade later Putin says, 'Ah, fuck it, I'm taking Crimea' and the Ukraine is like "WTF OK EVERYONE HELP US"********
- And did anyone help Ukraine? I watched a talk by the president of Ukraine where he was BEGGING the world for help. But, Russia is on the Security Council.********
- how did Ukraine destabilize all of sudden?yurimon
- The destabilization happened because people were fed up with the corruption and wanted closer ties to Europe rather than Russia.qoob
- The president of Ukraine, in that talk said that he wasn't even asking the world for arms. He just wanted military assistance and non-lethal equipment.********
- The guy they kicked out, Yanukovych, was basically a crony of Putin and would openly brag about how corrupt he was.qoob
- qoob is right. Most of the country wanted closer ties with EU. Which would hurt Russia+Putin. Throw in a corrupt election and watch the country destabilize.********
- And here's the crazy thing...Trump's current campaign manager actually worked for him. lolqoob
- https://www.theguard…qoob
- There is bit more to the story. however i dont agree with taking cremea but i do see it a military importance if it was to fall into the wrong hands. wed probyurimon
- http://www.politico.…qoob
- do the same. that region was however pro russian already so there was not much resistance. i think they voted if it was a real election also.yurimon
- There may be a valid point on Crimea but the bigger story is that Russia wants to take over the neighboring states that it lost when the USSR broke up.qoob
- So if Trump is elected and Putin invades Georgia or some other nearby country what happens?qoob
- "There was not much resistance"? There was a war, you idiot. On one side you had a nuclear superpower backing the militia, and lying to the world about it.********
- play with the idea that Rssa is in revenge mode because of what happened in the nineties and how the NATO moves the defence instruments closer to its borders.********
- What happens if Ukraine joins the EU? Russia will send in tanks. What would Trump do? Be pals with Putin? Trump is fucking clueless.********
- As of last week he didn't even know that Russia was in Crimea. If you seriously think his "I'll be friends with Russia" strategy will work, you're clueless, too********
- @yurimon - not sure if you get the news in US the same as here (after all it's all fake to you) but your last 2 statements were completely obvious and everyonefadein11
- here knows and you say them like they are your special insight. Why are you so arrogant?fadein11
- Again, we have to thank the Clintons for the entire mess.********
- @qoob - Russia felxes its muscles but its on its arse, surprised if any of its nukes actually still work. It is not ready to go to war with the West despitefadein11
- I think the Crimea is enough mili advantage. ukraine is in bad shape? another greece?yurimon
- what we are told by the media on a regular basis. It's wars will be thought through natural resources and cold war 2 style tactics. Sad to say but the US couldfadein11
- Crimea is known to be pro russia and had a majority of russian citizens living there already.yurimon
- flatten Russia in hours with little comeback if they wanted to. But it won't happen in the near future - it's all fear-mongering.fadein11
- the war was most vicious during the collapse.yurimon
- *flexesfadein11
- yes we know yurimonfadein11
- In Russia the rich will continue to get richer and the poor poorer and poorer and then there will be another revolution to the left or extreme right. Russia isfadein11
- always the West in fast forward.fadein11
- And yes I know it is part of the 'West' but has always been separatefadein11
- when did you become a neocon? just this election or since 2001?yurimon
- me a neocon? lolz. your judgement is way off yet again.fadein11
- it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation with such nonsense and stupid allegations.********
- One minute I am a liberal, or neoliberal, now neocon but in yurimon's eyes always a racist lolzzzz... this guy. I would love to meet him.fadein11
- if you take trip down memory lane and all the policies that you blamed n hate bush are still in play and even stronger with democrat nomination.yurimon
- which most of you are defending by the way. only needed is a change of gender, race and party label to mask it for most of hilshil supporters.yurimon
- I am British and DO NOT SUPPORT HILARY you fucking idiot. How many more times? TRUMP is a useless scumbag who you support - that is the issue.fadein11
- you defend her constantly.yurimon
- Ukraine is not in bad shape. Yurimon, you have no clue what you're talking about. Stop posting and read something about the subject before spewing your diahrrea********
- I do not defend her - please link to examples on this website. She is a servant of the establishment, Trump is a retard on a scooter blindfolded. I desirefadein11
- relative stability over Trump's terrifying experimental presidency. If there was another credible candidate in the race I would automatically lean away fromfadein11
- "Crimea was pro-Russia" ??? Do you think this excuses a foreign nuclear power annexing? Good grief, it's like you've never read a book. How very Trump-esque!********
- Hilary.fadein11
- Ukraine isn't some war-torn, lawless land. It's a fucking sovereign country! Russia literally invaded another country, and the world did nothing.********
- some argue the legitimacy of the neonazi pres. anyway that besides the point. the point here is the discussion in the video.yurimon
- hiliaryyurimon
- ^ yep - but after the US stirred up the the revolution. Russia was forced into that I think.fadein11
- my comment was for nbfadein11
- Russia was forced into invading Crimea????********
- neonazi prez?monospaced
- Not forced but had to show it meant business which The US knew it would do.fadein11
- Now lets get back to the common sense of stephan.yurimon
- You should get back to your own common sense firstmoldero
- I agree with this guy EXCEPT that he's ignoring the fact that Trump won't be able to do shit w/ Russia without pissing off everyone in the EU. Then, NATO.