Nice (France) attack

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  • IRNlun62

    It's the Saudi Salafi, and their global influence from the control of the worlds majority oil production. Western support, Globalist open-border policy, forced multiculturalism, and the complete media and public denial of the overwhelming influence from Salafists on the Islamic culture worldwide.

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    • overwhelming influence?monospaced
    • Iranian mullahs are no peaceniks either. Pointing to ISIS makes the problem appear much more manageable than the real scale of the issue.IRNlun6
    • not really it's just radicalised lone wolves - no chance of stopping it.fadein11
    • I doubt any of the recent attacks in the last year were ordered from the top... just individuals and small groups off their nut on religion.fadein11
    • Yes, they're the most conservative, wealthy and influential group with the power to dominate any culturally enlightened muslims world wide.IRNlun6
    • ISIS aren't lone wolves, Al Qaida, Al-Nusra, Boko Haram, etc.. etc.. all influenced by the same conservative ideology.IRNlun6
    • The truck driver was a Salafist?monospaced
    • they're brainwashed on the internet progaganda.. so in a way, it comes from the topBennn
    • oh you muppet - I didn't say ISIS are lone wolves... I am saying there are a lot of individuals inspired by ISIS with little or no connections.fadein11
    • none of this is new anyway, every generation thinks today is worse than before - rewind to the 1970's.fadein11
    • He was a sunni, and France is a major target for their push for integration by banning face veils and closing extremist mosques.IRNlun6
    • It's the Salafi. [insert a select few gripes which are factors that inspire attacks off top of head]... Oh, why do the media deny its all the Salafis' fault...kingsteven
    • @IRN - yes, we know this, not to mention the pile of shite comic Charlie Hebdo which enjoyed agrovating the situation for years in the name of free speech...fadein11
    • You're right, this isn't new, but their power and influence allows it to spread unchallenged. Their faith is their connection, clearly not shared by all.IRNlun6
    • If this is the case, then there's no real hope of stopping anything, I worry. It's not exactly a straightforward task eliminating a system of belief.monospaced
    • nope... and also an enemy you cannot target as can be anywhere and not connected to a group - just an ideology.fadein11
    • and use everyday vehicles to kill 84 people... ugh. so depressing...fadein11
    • Call it for what it is. Don't allow it because tolerance. Forbid certain schools from practicing. Don't allow it to be representative of the entire faith.IRNlun6
    • Cultural enlightenment has and will happen again. It sure as shit doesn't help that the West does everything in it's power to deny the source.IRNlun6
    • disenfranchised, poor, low educated people will always latch onto something that they think gives meaning to their life.fadein11
    • Do yourselves a favour and listen to this below. The mindfuck complexity of the situation in the middle east is explained (as far as it ever could be). It's...Morning_star
    • ...depressing to consider that whatever is done will be largely ineffective. https://soundcloud.c…Morning_star
    • Many are also relatively wealthy, educated Westerners. Their current success in recruiting is largely due to their very well produced propaganda.IRNlun6
    • And believe me it's not lost on me how challenging confronting an ideology is.IRNlun6
    • Every time globalists want to smash the hornets nest for a regime change just makes their propaganda all the more powerful and more effective.IRNlun6
    • You seem to know a lot of specifics about the Salafi. I don't know much at all, but it seems contrary to their beliefs to be western, educated and wealthy.monospaced
    • Mono, It's all cool as long as you're a man.Morning_star
    • How are you coming across "very well produced," powerful and successful Salafist propaganda in the first place?monospaced
    • It will keep getting worse until we, as a society, determine where the lines are online. I truly believe all these live videos will push so many to becomeformed
    • "famous". How easily it is to share horrible things is going to make for some terribly things everyone will see, live. Surprised it hasn't happened yet.formed
    • Gross oversimplification, but spreading ideologies among humans is nearly impossible to do without wealth, power or influence.IRNlun6
    • As enraging, hurtful, or influential communication can be, forcing ourselves to censor is the worst thing we can do.IRNlun6
    • Many of the commanders of ISIS were trained by Russian and German Special forces during the 80s. This includes 'very well produced' propaganda techniques.Morning_star
    • Mono, twitter is an amazing source to follow people who track and translate the propaganda. ISIS and their supporters are actually very active on social media.IRNlun6
    • You are able to find and follow influential, successful well produced Salafist propaganda on twitter? I don't use twitter, so this seems a bit surprising to me.monospaced
    • Mono, it was a surprise to me too but the 'medieval religious simpletons' stereotype is non existent. They have very, very sophisticated social media...Morning_star
    • ...strategies and the knowledge to deliver it. Again, you can look at the training the Iraqi Baath Party had in the 90s and naughties from the Germans and RussMorning_star
    • ...ians.Morning_star
    • Turns out the guy wasn't even religious. Nice fear-mongering, bigoted assumption there. I bet your propaganda claim is all BS as well.monospaced
    • Mono, I do my best here to understand topics and be respectful to people.IRNlun6
    • If you can't disagree without childish name calling then I really have nothing more to say to you.IRNlun6
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