UK in/out Europe?
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I probably don't know enough about the EU. But the reasons stated at the top of the last page for separation seem to make sense. If i was there I think I'd vote out.
If the EU was created to resolve conflict and unite a few countries and reduce conflict I can see that as being a good thing. And probably a good idea by the people who had it at the time. It's like a parent who makes there son and daughter who are fighting hug it out. But a good parent shouldn't than chain the siblings hugging together for all eternity out of fear of future conflict.
The major merits of all of society have been created from individuals, and countries can be thought of as individuals in a larger system. As individual countries they can compete and choose to fight entrophy in different ways. And there will be winners and losers. But humanity as a larger picture benefits. VS one "nation or whatever" being run by a set of politicians who might have been good 10 years ago, but entropy happens and bad ones got in. Now you have one giant collective neck to be hung by. So in the end all the plans of creating a great unified system to prevent conflict gets taken over and falls apart. Call it entrophy or incest.
It seems like since WWII the US has been moving in the general direction the EU has by removing state power and replacing it with federal laws. Plenty of popular thinkers have plainly written that that's what they wanted because they knew best, and maybe some did, but what of their successor? Why im more for state control in the US. I would much prefer local elections to carry more wait than a single presidential one. Especially with our current election... I don't know why its not. Maybe media and incentives of worrying about a single president being far easier and less time consuming to form an educated opinion. Why most people probably vote left or right without any knowing of what left or right even means to the candidates.
Also its a popular opinion that monopolies are bad and terrible things. Why aren't governments thought of in that aspect? All of the reasons why monopolies are bad are the same for centralized power. Be funny if a gov ever warned its people of its growing power and influence over individuals everyday lives. Or that the smaller the gov and the more freedom is a sign of a better system.
But I lean towards freedom before security. A lot of people don't. I'm sure any exit would take time and there would be pains but I think for the bigger picture it could be a better thing for more people. And isn't it a good sign when more countries can cooperate independently without being forced controlled by a single gov. Shouldn't the single gov be a measure of how we haven't broken away from our tribalism conflict instincts? Either way good luck on your end over there and see you in a couple weeks.
- it's less federal version of the USA.lowimpakt
- oh. well if it was me that's the way i'd vote. on basic fundamentals of systems and entropy. from your post below it still seems too many stepped********
- and fundamentally proned to favor the interests of lobbyists. more rules create more necessity for middlemen. like lawyers and realtors********
- you can get lost in the details but i wonder if people will still contest a entropy of larger indirect systems. people see it biz everyday.********
- 3 levels of marketing directors + one VP of something or another. Everything i know is to reject such systems because they hardly ever produce anything good********
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