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    It truly baffles me that people try to make an argument that the solution to gun violence is more guns. It's easy to understand why the NRA makes the argument, but how did the people get convinced?

    The country with the most guns per capita is America. It's not even close. There are MORE GUNS THAN PEOPLE. So here we have this great example country: America has the most guns per capita and the most frequent mass shootings by citizens.

    Obviously, the problem with gun violence is much, much larger than just gun control and access to weapons. It's a complex problem. But, it is crazy to me that people have been tricked into thinking that you could solve the problem with more guns.

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    • Needing to defend yourself from violent attacks, invasions and terrorists is so common in Montana that it's a way of life? I call complete bullshit on that.monospaced
    • nothing wrong with not wanting weapons in the wrong hands. I just see people repeating the same fallacy without complete evaluation of the problemyurimon
    • If anything, this "way of life" is a sick, disturbed and ignorant interpretation of the 2nd amendment, and a pathetic obsession with guns.monospaced
    • who commits the mass shootings exactly? most guns involved in crimes were not legally obtained.yurimon
    • shotguns aren't the problemmoldero
    • well to americans it seems like "gun control" = "banning my guns"inteliboy
    • oh... bear attacks... a way of life in Montanamonospaced
    • if you have house its good to have for the most part. it is good security if well trained good people have permits. makes you less of victim if criminalsyurimon
    • know there is a chance for someone to successful defend themselves. you know what people dont talk about. is successful protection or defense. there are plentyyurimon
    • incidents of crime prevention you will never hear about. or you can delegate responsibility of manhood to your local govyurimon
    • im sure being a man unable to protect yourself or your family can be trusted to a 3rd party whos response time is after the fact rarely during a crime.yurimon
    • When we have legislators on the record calling for no Americans to be allowed to carry weapons I can understand supporters concerns.IRNlun6
    • Even with a weapon there is no guarantee that you could survive a mass casualty shooting, there is comfort in the idea of being armed in such an event.IRNlun6
    • Being armed vs being completely helpless until police to show up.IRNlun6
    • I think people who haven't been raised in rural areas around guns don't look at them the same way. They seem them as only a danger. And it makes it easy to
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    • blame guns. Think those raised around them see its the person not the gun, because they have more experience. A gun isnt scary or dangerous, just a person is
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    • A lot of good points brought up here, but none of them address my original point: why do people think MORE guns is a solution to this?
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    • i dont know who thinks more guns is the answer to what? is there a specific person you are referring to?yurimon
    • i don't think its a solution nor is less guns a solution. I think its looking at it completely wrong.
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    • deaths at the hand of guns are not directly correlated to quantites
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    • of course 0 guns would mean 0 deaths by guns and that might be where the logical fallacy comes from. but 100 guns or 100k depends on who's hands they are in
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    • I'm not referring to anyone here. But certainly many people in the media have suggested that more guns is the answer.
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    • i think its somehow an echo of a combination of people making fun, plus the media left bias when i hear this. people who own gun are more practical about itsyurimon
    • purpose in defense or protection of their rights. everyone knows there are so many variables in a situation whether you have a gun or not. you can not controlyurimon
    • let me ask you this nb. in the majority of these mass shootings, why does the shooter stop killing people? because someone else with a gun stepped in and ended
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    • everything but there are stats that give you insight that contradicts what is the usual perceptions about the subjectyurimon
    • it
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    • regardless of your stance on gun control or how you feel about the nra the simple truth is the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a
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    • gun. and mono, try to sound a little less ignorant, we all know you hate middle america, you don't need to remind us
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    • I'm in the process of trying to get a class A unrestricted firearms license. In my state and town it is not an easy process.IRNlun6
    • One thing I have noticed is that a lot of people are really bad shots so I don't support the idea that we would all be safer with more guns. Training is key.IRNlun6
    • one of my friends is going through the process now. in Mass. they make it particularly difficult, it's more of a privilege than a right, then one state away in
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    • nh you can buy and carry a pistol without an fid
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