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    Without sounding like a conspiracy nut, I thought it would be interesting for people to know that many Muslims knew the coming of ISIS would occur, as they are a specific type of group that continues to emerge and die off throughout history.

    They are known as Khawarij (separatists) and they have consistently been wiped out or expelled throughout history by Muslims.

    The predictions about the type of people ISIS are was made by the Prophet Muhammad himself, in a collection of narrations including this:

    “It is related on the authority of ‘Ali (may Allah ennoble his countenance): ‘When you see the black flags, remain where you are and do not move your hands or your feet (It’s a common phrase meaning: “Stay put and don’t get involved in the fighting”). Thereafter there shall appear a feeble folk to whom no concern is given. Their hearts will be like fragments of iron. They are the representatives of the State (Ashab al-Dawla). They will fulfill neither covenant nor agreement. They will invite to the truth, though they are not from its people. Their names will be agnomens [i.e., Abu So-and-so], and their ascriptions will be to villages. Their hair will be long like that of women. [They shall remain so] till they differ among themselves, and then Allah will bring forth the truth from whomever He wills.’”

    1. Black flags: ISIS use black flags.
    2. Feeble: They are newcomers to the fight in Syria and relative nobodies till they took swathes of land that was taken by other fighters.
    3. Hearts like fragments of iron: Watch any of their videos and judge for yourself.
    4. Ashab al-Dawla: They call themselves, the Dawla ('State').
    5. Breaking agreements: They broke agreements and refused Shariah arbitration.
    6. Invite to the truth, though not from its people: Yes, they’re Khawarij (Separatists).
    7. Their names will be agnomens: Abu Hamza, Abu Qatada etc meaning (Father of Hamza...) hiding their real names.
    8. Their ascriptions will be to villages: Villages here could be read as cities; most of them are al-Iraqi, al-Misri, al-Maghribi, al-Tunisi, etc.
    9. Long hair: See Abu Ibrahim and the other assorted characters.

    You can know more about it in this clip of Hamza Yusuf Hanson, a highly respected American Muslim (convert) scholar from California.

    • why didn't they do anything about it?dirtydesign
    • Seems like Mohammad wasn't really a really good role model for peace and loving thy neighbor. Just saying.robotron3k
    • Actually he was brilliant. He took care of his neighbours, even those that hurled rubbish at him. He was entrusted with money for sake-keeping even by the Jews.MakeBelieve
    • He was known to admired by his enemies for his honesty and truthfulness. He warned against people like ISIS and told people to stay away or fight them.MakeBelieve
    • Muslims have been continuously wiping out the likes of extremism that ISIS represents. This time however, they are well funded.MakeBelieve
    • Most 'Muslim' countries are led by corrupt leaders and they couldn't care less about ISIS or Islam. They use ISIS to crack down on opposition and change.MakeBelieve
    • ISIS/Khawarij are those that would even reject Muhammad, so instead of emulating him, they think they are the absolute final word on right/wrong in Islam.MakeBelieve
    • Prophet said that his community (Muslims) are people of 'wasat' (middle) - meaning of moderation. He implied don't be over zealous nor too liberal/lax. Balance.MakeBelieve

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