Shooting of the Day
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Lot of long winded arguments on this thread that are depressingly circular.
I herald from Hobart, Tasmania (Aus). May ring a bell because it's where the world's worst mass shooting occurred in Port Arthur: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…)
Prior to this, Australia had an engrained gun culture, very similar to America - i.e. one that led to regular gun related injuries/murders. But the effect that the Port Arthur massacre had on our society was profound. No doubt most American's remember where they were when they witness 9/11 unfolding, well most Australian's can remember where they were when Port Arthur occurred. It was horrific.
It took one extreme instance, a massacre so brutal it was almost incomprehensible, to undo all the engrained gun lobby 'right to own/carry' arguments. A society where a mentally unstable human being has ease of access to semi-automatic weapons and go on to murder others and hunt down their children as they fled, is wrong. We understood that we were all responsible for perpetuating the environment that allowed this to occur. So we opted for gun control.
Now days, if you want a rifle or a handgun, you have to go through a rigorous review process, training and have a valid professional reason to own a firearms license. What's more, you cannot simply 'purchase' a firearm from a store, their sale is strictly monitored. Australia has not had a massive shooting since and homicides, suicides and robberies decreased instantly. The proof is in the pudding.
Ultimately, words are wind and action is the only way to stop these massacres happening. And whether you like it or not, in supporting the right to openly own/carry firearms you are essentially supporting/enabling mass shootings.
- totally remember where i was ..autoflavour
- Heard it unfold on the buses radio, while heading back from College. Family knew one of the officers first on the scene, left the force a year on due to PTSD.********
- Alas this would never work in the States - totally different culture/history/poli... etc. etc... it would have happened by now if it could.fadein11
- I disagree, AUS experienced just as much opposition by lobbyist's and minorities, but our Prime Minister and the great population said "enough's enough".********
- Regardless of the difference of culture/history/poli... the argument always comes back to the same conclusion...********
- "Whether you like it or not, in supporting the right to openly own/carry firearms you are essentially supporting/enabling mass shootings."********
- Every American should therefore ask themselves whether they support murder. Most would say "no" and therefore accept the introduction of stricter gun controls.********
- holly shit, fadein11 has seen the light, didn't expect that********
- and your drastic oversimplification guvnor is mind numbingly childish********
- Having lived in Europe & Australia Gilgamesh, I have to say that this whole situation in US is over-complicated and childish. We're in 2015 not the dark ages.********
- @gilgaI haven't seen the light - just think Oz gun culture/history is totally different to the US and a solution in 1 context is unlikely to work in another.fadein11
- yes, it is most certainly overcomplicated, thats why simple solutions that may have worked in au and the eu wouldn't work over here********
- so before you say stupid shit like the last sentence of your rant you should probably consider that you in fact don't know what the fuck you are talking about a********
- and don't have the right to make sweeping statements that vilify a group of people you have never lived among********
- @fadein11, yes i got that, and that's what i meant when i said you have seen the light********
- Pretty well informed Gilgamush. Worked with MONA on a US gun buyback program last year in New Orleans. To stop gang killings.********
- so did you actually spend lime in louisiana********
- I've probably done more for the US about this issue than you yourself have. Words are wind mate, action makes a solution. You can either enable or prevent it.********
- Also, what part of what I wrote vilifies a particular group? You need to read what I wrote again, it's simple cause & effect and can be applied to any problem.********
- 'in supporting the right to openly own/carry firearms you are essentially supporting/enabling mass shootings.' idiotic oversimplified statement********
- buybacks don't do shit in a country with more guns than people. your desire to do humanitarian activism is admirable however naive and poorly conceived********
- and for that i give you a pat on the back, but your childish oversimplification is unfounded and impractical********
- We're not going to see eye to eye Gilgamush. Ultimately the majority of folks on this planet seem to be doing fine with gun control. Live in your bubble.********
- My bubble is called north america, and the majority of us like our guns, our guns have never sprouted feet and acted out of their own accord. People and society********
- Are the problem********
- Not North America. Just states. We have guns and gun controls. Not as easy accessible. You need to do test and waiting periods and renew your licence everypango
- Couple years. Just to make sure you don't turn into an idiot one day. Plus most of the illegal guns we have came from the states. You guys have way too many gunpango
- I have a friend who applied for gun license for 3 years now. He hasn't got one. No criminal history. Thanks god for gun control. Cuz He'd be that idiot with gunpango
- Another friend who has gun license already. Know no way you can use it to protect your home. Cuz he got a kid in the house. The guns are always disassembled andpango
- Locked in 2 dif safe. Cuz he wouldn't want kid or thief to get to it. No way he can draw his gun to fight the robber in time.pango
- Cool story guys. The other first world countries are doing fine without owning/carrying and it's a true/tried method of preventing these horrific shootings.********
- Cool story guys. The other first world countries are doing fine without owning/carrying and it's a true/tried method of preventing these horrific shootings.********
- Well we aren't talking about those other countries are we now********
- So let me ask you a question, what makes America so different to Australia or any other Western country in this day in age that requires you to have guns?********