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This feels like the kind of post that would be on page one of this thread but all this atheism as a religion and it being a form of faith bullshit makes me think it's worth saying again:
The burden of proof has to be with those that claim something to be true that is not measurable in any tangible way. There is no responsibility on those that do not believe unsubstantiated stories to start from a position that says they are true and then disprove them. Therefore there is no faith involved with atheism, only rational thought and a joy in the acquisition of new knowledge.
The theistic stories of Christianity or Islam are in no way any different from those of scientology and David Icke or the ancient myths of the norse and greek gods (they just come from different time periods)- at what point does the lack of belief in any of this bullshit stop being faith and just become sensible rational thought?
Here's the basic difference between religious faith and atheism:
– Atheism is a refusal to believe the stories we are fed from an early age without some form of measurable proof that they are real; this in turn allows the people to seek answers to questions, acquire exciting new knowledge about the world around them and adjust their world view accordingly as civilisation progresses. By this structure, if proof that there is a god became available atheists would accept it and adjust their world view.
– Theism is a refusal to accept stories we are fed from an early age can be anything but true despite any newly acquired information might describe; this in turns means people have to spend their time and effort skewing the information in the world around them in a manner that serves only to hold us back as a civilisation. By this structure, is proof that there is no god became available theists would deny it and skew the information to fit their world view.
- there's no need of s burden of proof, this is what is called faith, faith isn't science ffs, I'm not even religious, but goddamit people stop being so obtuseGeorgesII
- people stop being so obtuseGeorgesII
- That's not obtuse, if somebody tells me something is true and it should have an effect on the world and on me then they have the burden of proof.Wolfboy
- If on the other hand they sit at home, do not preach their stories or cut off the heads of non-believers then they need prove nothing.Wolfboy
- to prove nothing.Wolfboy
- I've been living in italy for almost a decade, still haven't been forced to believe in anything,GeorgesII
- but strangely in the Us there's this twisted evangelic dominionist religion, pretty weirdGeorgesII