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  • Morning_star0

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    Consciousness studies are the thorn in the materialist/atheist side. More often than not the theories, debates, scientific papers etc are swept under the carpet with claims of pseudoscience by the materialist scientific establishment. The universe(s) should be explored/studied free from existing dogma and prejudice.

    • Not a thorn. A challenge. You act as if ANYONE anywhere has an answer. The bible doesn't.monospaced
    • AT LEAST scientists are TRYING to figure it out unlike religious retards who gave up 2000 years afo.monospaced
    • You need to get over your science vs religion obsession. Science has its own problems without bringing the fucking religious into it.Morning_star
    • religious into it. Even when science does have a glimmer of an answer the dogmatic materialist scupper the debate. Morons.Morning_star
    • Moronic to the point of faith.Morning_star
    • science came from the the old religion.yurimon
    • i would say instead that both science and religion stem from human curiosity. religion was just our first attempt at answering things. an admirable attempt but ultimately wrong.scarabin
    • things. an admirable attempt but ultimately wrong. its only use now is in helping us understand the internal, rather than the externalscarabin
    • external.scarabin
    • the mind speaks in symbols, the universe in mathscarabin
    • YOU brought religion into it, Morning_star, by saying it was a thorn in the atheists side. Which it isn't.monospaced
    • So your position is one that claims we are biological robots and Consciousness is an illusion?Morning_star
    • yes, it's that we are biological machines and consciousness is an amazing result of biologymonospaced
    • mostly because there's no evidence for any other explanation, except "it must be magic"monospaced
    • but really because neuroscience has explained it extremely wellmonospaced
    • "Materialist" You are so focused on picking that fight, but I've never heard a good explanation of what it actually means to be non-materialistukit2
    • "non-materialist." Are you saying it can't be measured by humans, and if so how would we ever prove or disprove it?ukit2
    • and just because it can't be measures is the most stupid reason for assuming it's supernaturalmonospaced
    • "science can't explain it, therefore: god" is idioticmonospaced
    • You really need to stop this religious obsession. You're the one that keeps making the leap to god. All I'm suggesting is that to claim that we understand the complete nature of the universe is ridiculous. Especially in the light of quantum theory, dark energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
    • to claim that we understand the complete nature of the universe is ridiculous. Especially in the light of quantum theory, dark energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
    • energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
    • Universe.Morning_star
    • derp, science doesn't claim to have it all figured out, and science is still not a belief system ;)monospaced
    • It does though, that's the point.Morning_star
    • haha, scientists would be the first to acknowledge they don't have it all figured out. What do you think they spend their time on?ukit2
    • The scientific establishment will not even entertain the discussion of science that doesn't conform to the current materialist paradigm. TED is a prime example.Morning_star
    • paradigm. TED is a prime example of this.
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    • you couldn't be more wrong... the MOST $ in science is being poured into what we don't understandmonospaced
    • there is no theory on matter and existence that anyone conforms to, just the LHC and the like working on itmonospaced

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