Israel bombing shit..
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"aside from the obvious demands, I think the zionist programmes of illegal occupation (e.g. birthright programmes, lone soldiers etc) need to stop. I'm an athiest so I think any human division along religious grounds is nutty so I am very biased to overly rational solutions."I agree completely, rationally there's no reason why they couldn't co-exist. 2 state possible, but 1 state impossible because of israels self-understanding.
regarding religion, there's some weird shit with the religious component in israel, it's not as clear as on the arab side, things like secular zionism, minority of deeply religious or orthodox jews in state of israel. even if it's the jewish state, it's more like a multi-cultural thing, multi-religious thing, more heterogenic than the arab side.
maybe more a orient vs. occident thing, clash of civilization thing that I see, not a clear jews vs. sunni thing.
where we don't agree is about who's to blame, and about the flexibility that israel has or doesn't have.