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    "...but the idea of a new kind of unknown particle seems reasonable based on what we already know, psychic powers is a big leap"

    This is where we disagree, it's not a big leap. Even if you take a very quick look at the link i provided above you'll see that there is a huge amount of empirical data and evidence supporting the existence of Psi Effects. Not to mention the tens of thousands of years that humans have been experiencing the phenomena.

    Do I have psychic abilities? No more or less than any other human. Have i experienced someone bending a spoon? Yes, it's a neat party trick.
    Have I seen someone predict the future? Not in the way you mean.

    However, the relatively common experience of NDEs (Near Death Experiences) raise the question of mind being seperate to the physical brain. There is some compelling evidence, particularly the 10 year study by the heart surgeon Dr Pim Van Lommel.
    Dean Radins experiments concerning the influence of thought on the double slit experiment are fascinating.
    And Rupert Sheldrakes series of experiments concerning the Sense of being stared at and Dogs that know when there owners are coming home are compelling.
    Not to mention studies on the Placebo Effect, Murmeration, Herd Communication, Lactating Mothers (yep, it's a freaky thing)

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    "It shouldn't really require poring over statistics to prove this stuff... "
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    How else would you give it scientific credibility?

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    • Give up, honestly. Fruitless debate.set
    • Fruitless as in people who cant comprehend without personal experience. where that is lackingyurimon
    • As if any fucking religious nut has had ACTUAL experience with god, a miracle or an angel. We know it's fucking bullshit.monospaced
    • The whole point of science is that someone is getting as close as possible to actual experience with something.monospaced
    • Who mentioned religion? For someone with such a hatred for religions you bring it up more than anyone.Morning_star
    • HAVE YOU READ THE ORIGINAL POST? THIS IS ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCEmonospaced
    • I'm just going along with the original idea that science isn't a belief system... like religionmonospaced
    • It has you believing none of the aforementioned stuff is real. How is that not a belief system...?set
    • non belief isn't a belief system, like "off" isn't a channel on tvmonospaced
    • mono, you claim "We know it's fucking bullshit." There's your belief right there. Or are you claiming you ACTUALLY know.Morning_star
    • I KNOW there aren't angels or miracles, just like I know there isn't a Santa Claus or a monster in the closet at nightmonospaced
    • Hahaha!monospaced
    • "Do I have psychic abilities? No more or less than any other human." So basically no you haven't?ukit2
    • You know, the difference between this and something like dark matter or the Higgs is that you would expect those to only be documented in extremely difficult experimental studies. Whereas psychic powers supposedly interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
    • only be documented in extremely difficult experimental studies. Whereas psychic powers supposedly interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
    • interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
    • Honestly, I don't know,Morning_star
    • And yet in all of years spent studying it, not a single video or straightforward demonstration of these amazing powers...kind of strange don't you think?ukit2
    • amazing powers...kind of strange don't you think? :Pukit2
    • I do however trust the results and interpretation of research that I've pointed out.Morning_star
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