Israel bombing shit..

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    "yes but that position assumes that the IDF are the legitimate source of control and power which IMO can't be the case when there is illegal occupations and a blockade of gaza."
    - lowimpakt

    this is true, the legitimacy very questionable. but that's only an academic point. IDF rules, legally or not, via absolute military superiority. with egypt and syria currently neutralized, there's nothing that will change that in the foreseeable future, especially not stone-throwing kids or crude rockets. the simple reality is that if you attack israel you will positively get your ass kicked, and that if you don't attack israel they will abuse you way, way less.

    to me personally, everything except the expanding settlements is something I would do exactly the same, because I see no alternative for security reasons. the wall, the checkpoints, the raids, the gaza blockade; to me these were reactions to proven asymetrical threats (see second intifida, weapons smuggling, and so on), common sense.

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    "i'm am mostly a pacifist but as a human if I was forced to live in an "open prison" by an external force i would probably do everything in my power to fuck their shit up. I'm not trying to rationalise Hamas actions but I can understand why young men and women sign up to their shit."

    I definetely understand where the hatred and radicalism comes from, I can sympathize as well. the question is how many generations of palestinians you want to sacrifice for a *symbolic* resistance, futile resistance, before they decide to move on and have a life. this is of course their decision to make, but to be fair you cannot point your finger at israel and cry murder and genocide when you chose to engage a nuclear power with your slingshot.

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    • imagineallthepeople, you're from israel so you better than anyone here can tell us what's going on in your country. I have a single question though, "did hamas ever said that they abducted the 3 teenagers?"GeorgesIV
    • question though, "did hamas ever said that they abducted the 3 teenagers?"GeorgesIV
    • "before they move on and have a life", I think that's the point, they are being denied a life, their home, rights, food, water etc.
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    • thanks for your response magineallthepeople
      lowimpakt
    • np problem bro. glad someone's open for input.
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    • up until the middle of the second intifida, I saw it 100% like you, so I can relate
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