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    "Your brain is a complicated system with lots of particles interacting, and it’s unlikely to expect that quantum coherence is responsible for the nature of consciousness, because quantum coherence gets destroyed in most physical systems—because of the many particles interacting—in a small fraction of a second. ... Anyone who makes a claim about consciousness is probably lying, because we don’t understand the nature of consciousness. And there are lots of people who try to make their living by being hucksters about this. In particular there are those awful people who promote things like that silly, nonsensical book The Secret, which suggests that if you think about it, it will happen. If you want it, it will happen. That somehow your desires can affect the universe, and that is the worst garbage, the worst misrepresentation of science mechanics. It’s fraudulent, it’s a lie, and people should ignore those people, and moreover ridicule them.”

    — Lawrence Krauss, physicist

    • lookin' at you, yurimonmonospaced
    • contradicts this though. http://physicsworld.…yurimon
    • that what im saying you dont understand nature of consciousness so all points are null and muteyurimon
    • if he says that we dont understand the nature of consciousness then he can make statements like he does. kinda idiotic for a physicist to contradict himselfyurimon
    • idiotic for a physicist to contradict himself and make strong statements after the fact of acknowledging we dont know.yurimon
    • hey Mono, I know nothing about electrical work but let me come over and rewire your apartment, yeah that kinda crazy..yurimon
    • There are pubished, peer reviewed quantum physics experiments showing action at a distance i.e. mind influencing matter. Lawrence Krauss is talking crap.Morning_star
    • matter. Krauss is talking bollox.Morning_star
    • http://www.livescien…Morning_star
    • Oh man, the comments from both of you make you look even more stupid and ignorant than before. Good show, idiots.monospaced
    • Hey mono, i've given you a claim about matter being effected at a distance. Evidence against your position. Care to provide evidence that contradicts the claim that action at a distance is not only possible but prooved? Or you just gonna be an arrogant crowd-follower as usual.Morning_star
    • evidence that contradicts the claim that action at a distance is not only possible but proved? Or you just gonna be an arrogant crowd-follower as usual.Morning_star
    • crowd-follower as usual.Morning_star
    • No, just saying that it has nothing to do with consciousness controlling jack shit. You'd know that if you knew anythign abut itmonospaced
    • spooky action at a distance is quantum, but you'd have to be a retard to think thoughts control realitymonospaced
    • just like praying doesn't work, and you can't wish for more intelligence, no matter how hard you trymonospaced
    • Does measuring the results of a double slit experiments effect the results?Morning_star
    • Yes, but there exists no evidence and no process by which thoughts can actually translate into changemonospaced
    • measuring isn't the same as conscious effect, and if you knew anything more than what that article says, you'd understandmonospaced
    • you'd understand, but keep on posting the same ancient shit and making idiotic assumptions about itmonospaced
    • right now you sound as cray-cray as yurimon ;)monospaced
    • Consciousness is one of the potential explanations for the collapse of the wave function. A quick look at physics blogs will show you that.Morning_star
    • show you that.Morning_star
    • anyway, trying to use the slit experiment as a pathetic excuse for mind-control is just ludicrousmonospaced
    • Why? Particles can act on each other at ridiculous distances. Experiments with positive significant results are out there that seem to show that intention (human) influences outcomes of the slit experiment.
      You seem to suggest that we know everything there is to know about physics and this universe is entirely material and we are just biological machines.
      Morning_star
    • that seem to show that intention (human) influences outcomes of the slit experiment.
      You seem to suggest that we know everything there is to know about physics and this universe is entirely material and we are just biological machines.
      Morning_star
    • are just biological machines.Morning_star
    • and that we know everything there is to know about physics.Morning_star
    • Hey Mono I dont anything about speaking french but I'm going to write a novel in french.yurimon
    • er dont know...yurimon

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