Shooting of the Day
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if you ban semi-automatics, you'll be banning 70% of all firearms in circulation. i feel that a major misconception of terms (label) and aesthetics is the first boundary in creating relevant firearm regulation.
the press and general pubic don't understand how these things are classified. it's also important to note that Fully Automatics are already prohibited to own by civilians in the United States. (The National Firearms Act of 1934)
So how do you regulate an estimated 189,000,000* semi-automatic pistols, shotguns, rifles and specialized/homemade firearms? (do keep in mind that they are already deemed legal.) also you really can't use fire action (mechanic) as the identifying indicator. rate of fire on semi autos are built on a technology that's over 130 years old. The technology has effectively been implemented on all firearms that require a "one pull, one round" action.
to add to that, local law enforcement, state enforcement and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms itself have admittedly testified before congress and senate that defining "assault rifle" would be difficult in any legislation drafted in which would need to draw clear definition / distinction between semi automatic sport / recreational and semi automatic assault / pera-military.
simply, the definition of "assault" is hard to define in the gun marketplace. is a semi automatic shotgun an assault firearm? They are very commonly used in spot.
It's not that i think there shouldn't be a refinement on our gun laws. lord knows most of our laws could use some tweaking. i believe that concentrating on the firearms alone isn't the solution. national registries don't do jack in preventing gun violence, and restrictions on concealment only stop law abiding citizens.
i feel that legislation on ammo is where some answers might lie.
today, you can buy up to a metric ton without government intervention. Now, i do believe that hunting and fire range are illegitimate ways to pass time. Just like fishing, project houses and videos games. I dont do any of that shit, but im not going to stop those who do. that's where a lot of gun control advocates stop considering. they simply want guns out of the picture. I do not believe that is realistic approach to solve this harsh problem and it is hard to take people seriously when they simply don't address the problem in the real world.sorry for the wall of text; thanks for reading.
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* Karp, Aaron. 2007. ‘Completing the Count: Civilian firearms.’ Fire Arms Survey 2007: Guns and the City, p. 67. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 27 August.)- make them illegal and government can buy them back from owner. like they've done in many countrieshotroddy
- they do this already, guns for toys/ etc programsantagonlsta
- also people like their guns. it is a national pastime, The United States has a very long history with gun ownership.antagonlsta
- They also liked slaves once too.
Morning_star - Morning, sorry i dont see the connection.antagonlsta
- Just because a society likes something doesn't mean it is good. Get rid of all guns.Morning_star
- see, i can't see the world just forgetting about guns one day.. remove them form the military, law enforcement ?antagonlsta
- Looking at the US from the UK I cannot comprehend the justification for guns...Morning_star
- 500 US kids were killed this year in their own home by accident. That alone is reason enough.Morning_star
- Do you live in the US?antagonlsta
- 532 cases of child abductions in 2011/12 in the UK. you can't run from crime.antagonlsta
- No. UK.Morning_star
- Not running from crime. Just don't see the need for guns. There is NO justification.
Morning_star - http://www.ons.gov.u…antagonlsta
- how about war?antagonlsta
- Not sure what your point is. Do you think those stats from the UK would be better if we had guns?Morning_star
- Our police are armed, so is our military. Our civilian population are not. Your point?Morning_star
- well, i have problems with people who think "all" guns should be banned. i mean you dont seem be one of those people.antagonlsta
- but, there is a need and a place for guns.antagonlsta
- Agreed. Very controlled. Every time someone fires a round whether Military or Police it is accounted for, the reason and the result.Morning_star
- ...the result. And the penalties for firing without reason are very harsh. Sometimes prison.Morning_star