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    Perfect example of unions gone sour, waste of time and money.

    Disgraced teacher is worth $10M, makes $100,000 a year, does nothing, & refuses to leave


    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/loc…

    In a defiant raspberry to the city Department of Education — and taxpayers — disgraced teacher Alan Rosenfeld, 66, won’t retire.

    Deemed a danger to kids, the typing teacher with a $10 million real estate portfolio hasn’t been allowed in a classroom for more than a decade, but still collects $100,049 a year in city salary — plus health benefits, a growing pension nest egg, vacation and sick pay.

    Mayor Bloomberg and Gov. Cuomo can call for better teacher evaluations until they’re blue-faced, but Rosenfeld and six peers with similar gigs costing about $650,000 a year in total salaries are untouchable. Under a system shackled by protections for tenured teachers, they can’t be fired, the DOE says.

    • The unions themselves should start taking the initiative to clean this sort of shit uplocustsloth
    • As in nearly every other area, a middle ground has to be found that doesn't allow abuses on either side (employer and employee)locustsloth
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      And some fucking personal integrity would help too.
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    • *doesn't hold breathlocustsloth
    • government in control.
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    • I agree locustsloth. Are you kidding me, this guy!? Unions are out of control and the people in them as well.
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    • Yes. I favor more government regulation and oversight. THat way they will have the power to get it right this time.
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    • http://redtape.msnbc…
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    • BTW, how the fuck can a NYC teacher make 10M, SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!
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    • if you read, it's from his investments and his law practicelocustsloth
    • yep, government employment is the only place you can moonlight with another full-time gig on the side.
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    • isnt it unions self interest to promote this guy. Less work more pay. Its what all union members would love.
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    • so in fact it would be against union leaders self interest to explain to people this is fucked he didnt earn it.
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    • its like them taking a step into saying u keep what u earn with those willing to give u. wont happen locust
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    • that's where the personal integrity i spoke of comes in. Also, the me not holding my breathlocustsloth
    • IMO unions should WANT to eliminate this sort of malfeasance because it would strengthen their positionlocustsloth
    • For all we know, these guys are innocent, falsely accused, etc. Not that it entitles them to pay w/out legit worklocustsloth
    • But if they ARE innocent, this is the sort of things that unions can be beneficial for, protecting workerslocustsloth
    • it'd be really easy to trump up accusations on a high paid teacher to get them out and save $locustsloth
    • W/out a union to help them, this hypothetical teach is out on his ass for no reasonlocustsloth
    • The situation is a problem with no easy answerslocustsloth
    • no easy "socially exceptable" answers is true. Simple he chosoe to work for x amount of dollars without any tricky subsidizing. Done.
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    • subsidizing and done. I think the fear of "workers rights or being abused is simply that fear. It happens with or without unions.
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    • unions. The idea of unions seems to do more harm for incentives to manipualtion that not. which is the problem
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    • i accept the right of union members to assemble and form. But be given no special legal privileges or subsidizations.
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    • subsidizations. I also question the difference in all workers of an area holding a monopoly of labor.AS in such a monopoly of anything promotes ill behavior
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    • anythign promotes incentives for ill behavior
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    • im seeing more and more people neglect incentives for good intentions
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    • likely why they see free market principles as failures. The idea of such is to analyze incentive.
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    • I agree with both of you guys, no easy answers and personal accountability has to be part of it, but like you said... *sigh
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    • I did read that, however, still he funded this through his salary and is doing it still by not working. Yes, cost of living
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    • obviously is a lot more in NYC and teachers (good ones) deserve it, but this story stinks, stinks, stinks...
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