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    @ukit

    Lets play a little hypotheitcal. Say you have a job making 50k a year but i will be willing to take your job for 30k. I can do it equally, better or slightly worse, that view is dependant upon the employer. I can take it for less because ive managed too live on 30k happily. Would you compete with me on living at 30k or cry foul and hope for government regulations or unions to make it possible to not undercut you? I think the easy out is to go for regulations and coercion. Peopel are all self interested individuals. The whole altruism is largely lies except for those few who are probably not right in the head. I think you'd act to take whatever measure possible instead of compete. After all you ahve more to lsoe with lifestyle than me gaining.

    That envy and desire to cheat a free market system is a problem with free markets. I think that is largely the largest problem with it. It creates a desire for security and protectionism. Only thing to help it is a strong education system. Instead of creating a dumb consumerist labor force preaching the problems of irrational problems capitalism.

    Take for example apple. Here is a company that exports all its labor. It strongly uses propaganda leaning advertising to pay exhorbant amounts for hardware that is largely slightly above current day standards. It continually tells people to not learn let us take care of you and make things easier. Dont judge standards above our own. Don't want more jsut be compliant with what we offer you. If you shop around youre a fool. If you find better cheaper hardware and spend the time to use it and benefit youre a fool. I am highly concerned with free market capitalism with the type of education system we have. And i personally use appl success as a barometer. Perhaps the over abundance of choice and lack or increasing anxiety in people at large amounts of choice is lobotimzing people. I dont know. Perhaps its the school systems and social marketing, attention spans, and negative reinforcements of free thought in the current system. I have a lot of issues with it. And still sorting them out and learning from the different dynamics. But i will have to admit capitalism in this current structure, with effective propaganda marketing and low education doesnt look good. But thats where idealism comes in. You have to recognize whats better and strive for it knowing you wont get utopia but striving for it on principles that rationally make sense. All atruistic principles do not make rational sense. How does one survive providing for others at their expense. Its fake a largely christian belief system to promote guilt and social control.

    Just think about it. How you would react to competition on you and what methods u would support for a sense of security. Than if you can apply those honestly to larger models on a global scale. Try to understand the difference in perspectives of what is fair from a chinese or indian dude making far less than you but getting by equally as happily as you on it. Difference currecnies and cultures and ideas about lifestyles. Im sure he will think its fucked if u try to lawfully can him from his job as much as you hate him for undercutting you. Life is not equal nor is it fair. You do what you have to even if that means lobbying or unionizing. SHould free rights and worker rights, without gov intervention if you want balance.

    Well thats my rant

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    • Dam i have bad type with beers... Regardless if something didnt make sense and needs clarification there are plenty of things i didnt touch on to try to make
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    • are plenty of things i didnt even get into to keep it simple. its so hard to summarize large things in a format people will read
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    • no response from him. it's interesting, apply logic and education to a post and they disappear with no rebuttal
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    • worth a damn. See Ramanisky2 and his dipshit posts with a lack of educated response.
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    • eat a dick fuckfaceRamanisky2
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