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Supply and demand is natural law. Everything living in nature runs on supply and demand. Markets are more advanced ethical form of natural selection. Governments provide security of peoples individuals rights and in doing so you take away the old fashioned tribalism/brute force forms of supply and demand. This sets up free trade. At this point the government can stop and just stick to protecting peoples rights (and contractual agreements) and you will see markets continue without need of further assistance. And that isnt ideology that just is.
Think of a lake with a health ecosystem of trout, salmon frogs and what not. It sustains and balances itself. Now think of god dropping some carp into that lake. What will happen to the ecosystem? Carp will upset the natural balance and change it. The carp had no way in nature to possibly get into that lake without divine assistance. Did that assistance distort and change the ecosystem? Is it the fault of the ecosystem? In this case its lucky to be god because it doesnt effect him and he really doesnt need to deal with any natural laws.
Switch out the lake for a city for say a college. Change god to government operating outside. They introduce 100% guaranteed payments incase of defaults. Would this not change the natural order of the banking system in how it would regularly compete and evaluate how it gives loans to the students? Is that not a distortion? Would the banks not see the positive incentives in marketing to more kids the loans and less checking to see if they could be paid back? Would that not influence kids who really didnt care for college to just go because loans are so easy to get and later declare bankruptcy after ten years of partying and fun social scene? Than would these kids feel cheated? Would people blame the banking industry for over lending and having tax payers front bills?
How far governments role and regulations play into it is more an "ideology" but not that its a more ethical form of natural selection. And have to say history seems to prove itself over and over again that ideologies holding these principles of least amounts of distortion through regulatory distortions to be the best methods for real progress and building everyone up. While the ideology that a centralized group of people can act as god and steer markets have never much succeeded. And when they collapse they collapse pretty hard, while the alternative takes a smaller hit and gets going again balancing itself out.
And it is not in mans best interest to grow your type of ideologies. Its fact that mans nature is incentive based in self interest. And that absolute power of authority and mans thirst will make him act in his own best interests, not of the people or for the people. We need less distortions and let market or natural forces of supply and demand govern us. Some peopel will say well what about those born in areas with less resources and such things. How will they get by and start thinking about ways to distort the markets to benefit others (politicians self interests in such actions are votes), voters self interests are in themselves, and play into mans nature without the ability to foresee any consequences like dropping a carp in a lake. That kind of pride and greed is bad juju.
Until the ideology and yes it's an ideology - of some sort of infallible god like men with no self interests (yea an impossibility) as some sort of prima facia thing in human existence disappears - we will suffer with this shit and with the bullshit that "insert name here" needs to believe in.
Im sticking with nature and history. And why bring up the handle? I have a ton of different monikers i use. I just took this one out of a book i was reading at the time. The naming of the character i thought was interesting. Nothing more than that. Or was that an attempt at one of those fallacies dealing with character assassination by making it seem like my name has some sort of bad meaning so everything i do must be bad. Like saying obama name barack hussein obama ooh hussein like that bad dead guy. Why else would u bring it up?
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