Detained for photography in Baltimore

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    Some of you sound like fucking high school kids "YEAH MAN FUCK AUTHORITY!!!"

    The cops start out being perfectly reasonable. And they have an obligation to check out what could be suspicious activity, which reasonably includes taking pictures of high traffic transportation systems, as those seem to be common targets for attacks.
    Had the photog given the same preamble he wrote out for the video about being a student and all, and showed his ID, he most likely would have been allowed to continue.
    But instead he acted like a 3yr old, not wanting to do something because he believed he didn't have to. Being obstinate and elusive with police NEVER makes you look like a law-abiding citizen.
    Now, i hate abuse of authority and power more than most things, but i don't see that as what was initially happening here. As citizens it is our duty comply with reasonable and reasonably stated requests from law enforcement officials.

    What if this guy had been someone of malicious intent, planning some sort of attack. Had something happened that could have been prevented by this sort of minor investigation, and officers stopped such an investigation because the person said "I have a right to do this" the officers would be hung by their nutsacks by the general populace.

    It breaks down to "everything in moderation". Yeah, you shouldn't bend over and let police do whatever they want without question, but you also have to give a little, know that they have a job that you, as a citizen have ASKED them to do, and understand that underneath the uniform, they are also people, and at least deserve the basic amount of respect that one should give another person.
    If you have the attitude of always being against cops, they will have a similar attitude about you.

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    • There is NO amount of security that will stop hate from happening.plash
    • and he Didn't "believe" he had a right not to.plash
    • What harm (in a reasonable situation) would come from showing an id and stating why you're there if it's for an innocent reason?locustsloth
    • reason?locustsloth
    • Why try to subvert authority if the only reason you have to do so is because you can?locustsloth
    • And you're right, no amount of authority can stop all acts of aggression, but at least you can TRY and stop or slow some of them, no?locustsloth
    • them, no?locustsloth
    • What harm? I believe i can walk down the street without proving who i am. where is the line? a bus stop?, a airport? a gas station?plash
    • where do we draw the line in protection? these cops broke the law. we shouldn't have tolerance for it.plash
    • Do you deny that the police had an obligation to at least see what the guy was up to?locustsloth
    • especially in the name of "security"plash
    • I do agree with you that law enforcement should investigate. but not at the expense of our freedom.plash
    • The "where do you draw the line" argument is bullshit. You draw the line at common sense. Most of the successful terrorist attacks have occurred on mass transit systems, not from people merely walking down the street or simply waiting at a bus stoplocustsloth
    • have occurred on mass transit systems, not from people merely walking down the street or simply waiting at a bus stoplocustsloth
    • So when the guys said "i have a right to do this" without offering any other explanation, the cops should have just walked away?locustsloth
    • dude, the line has be already defined. Our bill of rights, constitution amendments. oh what now that their job is harder..plash
    • harder we should give up some rights?plash
    • The cops asked no more than they would have if they stopped him in a car for speeding or driving erratically, how is that over the line?locustsloth
    • over the line?locustsloth
    • i don't think police should have carte blanche, but FFS, asking for an ID is out of bounds? Come on!locustsloth
    • no its not, but if denied that is not outside the law. what about vaxorcist point.?plash
    • do you agree that the cop did not know the law he is to enforce?plash
    • our taxes pay for 32 defense programs so we dont have to give up our basic human freedoms!!!!74LEO
    • locus, you sound like one of them.dMullins
    • i never submit identification. ever. unless i have committed a crime, they have no luxury to put me in their system.dMullins
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