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- luckyorphan0
Viking, I applaud your honest attempt at a decent list. Mind if I take a few points one by one and ask some questions? I tried to do that on the comment by your post, but I feel that this is a better place.
#1: People should not be allowed to live on welfare. Get in a jobs program through a local Junior college or other schools. Generations of families on welfare is unacceptable.
A scenario that has happened in America within the last two years: Whole sectors of the economy have collapsed, putting thousands out of work. This results in a tax crunch, leading to states and federal gov't short on revenues. The lower revenues results in less money for job programs and community colleges. Classes are closed, teachers are laid off and access to continuing education becomes difficult when it is most needed. What do you propose someone who has a family do without being able to live on welfare?
I agree that generations on welfare is unacceptable. I also believe that profitable corporations on corporate welfare is unacceptable. Given that the gov't spends over $100 billion on corporate welfare are you similarly ticked about corporate welfare...especially for profitable businesses?
Also, do you have any non-biased, controlled and vetted information showing that there is an epidemic of personal welfare leading to generations of families in America?
- ...more to come.luckyorphan
- Tough one. I think there is no problem with reasonable help. If its understood its a privilege that can be afforded. Not used for votes********
- for votes. Im purposefully ignoring the situation we're in for philosophy on ground level********
- because finding best solution with innumerable what ifs and what is's is tough********
- When the tax dollars kill and bene's become a way of life there is a problem. its a fall back like maybe living with parents********
- parents. instead of jsut stayign with them. fuck big corp tax deals. yes they can create jobs they also can create profits********
- its all about the "real"logic behind it instead of a PR soundbyte. but once agian how can soemone know with out edu and team play********
- edu and team bias... also i know not a 100% of people will be hlped soem people who deserve help get fucked********
- thats life. you cant control it without ruining the best. liek educated to the lowest common denominator********
- first of all peopel need to know and understand there will be hard luck tales of ppl getting fucked. once they accept that objectively it iwll make things better********
- objectively it will make things better.********
- ppl need to get over the sob storys used for votes. Get over emotion you can make better rational decisions********
- and to comment on this situation we're in i think its a private property grab by corp america. ppl played into their game, fucked situation all around********
- game. fucked situation all around. gov cant afford to help ppl, ppl need help. shits crumbling********
- and it likely will have a faster recovery without helping unless we jsut make up money on china dime and never plan to pay for it********
- pay for it********
- and still the created wealth will have top be paid for in blood by war or soem other method.********
- the money explanation of making money and gold standards in faust was great********
- sorry vike just chiming in where i can vent and fact check my own logic********